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  1. A wild guess Brod Regie, the babies that were massacred by Herod's Soldiers, this could be the most viable answer andi picked this up from a protestant preacher bob Breaker. For this are virgin babies and their soul was redeemed .

  2. Shaken! I don't believe that Rev 14:4 is speaking of male virgins. It would be the first a man is referred to as a virgin. Throughout scriptures, only women are referred to as virgins. The men are referred to as young men or old men.
    Revelation 14:1-4 does not say that the 144,000 are men. I see two possibilities here, (1) the 144,000 are men and they are not defiled because they have ONLY had sex with a virgin (maiden who has not known a man e.g, the Levite Priests could only marry virgins to keep from defiling themselves); or (2) the 144,000 are women who are virgins and are not defiled because they have not known a man/ had semen released into them (which makes a woman and the man unclean/defiled).  
    During the war with the Midyanites, Mosheh told the Israelite men to kill all the men and male children and the women who were not virgins. They only allowed the virgins (women that had not known a man) to live. Numbers 31. These virgin women were not defiled.

  3. You do need holy spirit before you teach. Holy spirit bares witness to itself your hate and pride is felt and brother I ask you pray to Abba to remove this horn. I swwply want you to be in his kingdom but you aren't fearing him right now and to fear him allows this spirit to be removed off you.

  4. I am studying Hebrew and in Rev. 14 when it says 144k Men it can mean women also…according to the law of Hebrew language Masculine or Men includes both sexes. If there is a room filled with women I can then speak the feminine form of a word yet if ONE man enters the room then I must speak the Masculine form just because of the one Male. Thus we cannot exclude women just because we see the word men. I believe these 144k spoken of in Rev. 14 are the first fruits of our people who were caught up with the Messiah when he ascended into heaven and was seen by the multitude. These are the old Patriarchs who had been waiting in Sheol to be redeemed by Yashayah. They are the ones who were not defiled with "women" or false doctrines and stayed true to follow the Torah which is Christ. They are now the ones who worship before the Throne and sing a new song…that is just my understanding so far

  5. Shabat Shalom Bro Reggie,

    From what I have read and understand is that the 144,000 are the same that was redeemed from among men; from the 12 tribes of Israel, the first fruits and it is only ONE first fruits: as it is written they follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
    Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

    Rev 3:10-12 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
    11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
    12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name…….

    This is not speaking about the 144,000 here it's telling Us to hold fast and not to let any man take your crown and who overcometh will he make a pillar in the temple of The Most High God in the new Jerusalem that will come down from heaven. The 144,000 are not dwelling here on earth with us They are with the Lamb in heaven already. This message is for Us whom are dwelling upon the earth now.These will have written on them the name of The Father the City & our Messiah's NEW name, remember the 1st fruits were already redeemed from among men.

    The 144,00 are with him because they follow whithersoever he goeth this is speaking of the same firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb from Rev 14:4

    REV 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were REDEEMED from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

    Bro Reggie I hope this will give you more understanding into the 144,000.

    Praying that all whom are keeping his commandments we will rejoice together.
    Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

    Also Ezekiel 40 The New Temple Area Restored: I think this will happen after the 1,000 years of peace

  6. Hi brother ok this is only my understanding of the 144000 they r men n women 12000 from each tribe a person from each n every walk of life every color they were virgins meaning they were not defiled by religion they came out of her ….but i am still trying to learn but let me sir if i could share a couple of dreams i had…..i had a dream i was stsnding on mount zion n i woke up i didnt see n e body with me but i didnt look for n e body else i dont know how i knew i was on mount zion but i was….now next dream i had a dream i was taken into heaven i was a spectator i seen two sets of hands from the wrists down they were both simultaneously folding a top n a bottom both white n putting them n two stacks when out of no where i heard the voice of the Lord n he said THESE R FOR MY TWO OLIVE TREES THE 144000 PREPARE n i woke upi got out of bed n walked down the hall to make my coffee still wondering what the two olive trees had to do with the 144000 i was shocked that from inside of me i heard the spirit of the Lord say PREPARE YOUR LAMPS WITH OIL

  7. Dear brother reggie, I beleive that everyone that serves the.lord, and bélieves in Him, and bélong To the house of Israël are thé 144,000. They are thé first fruits. 12,000 from each trouve. They are men and women, children. God bless.

  8. Hmm..According To Scripture I Do Believe The 144,000 in Revelation 14 already had existed because in Verse 3 it says that they were redeemed from the earth.verse 4 talks about how the men did not defile they self with women and that they are virgins. they were redeemed from among men being the firstfruits unto god and to the lamb.And That They Follow The Lamb whithersoever he goeth.. The Second 144,000 thats in Revelation 7 seems to be The ones that was sealed from wrath..as it says in Verse 4 all 144,000 of all the tribes of the childern of Israel..verse 9 talks about the great multitude that no man could number that came out of great tribulation of all nations ,kindreds of people and tongues that stood before the throne and before the lamb clothed with white robes.

  9. The Reference to Revelation Chapter 7 verses 1-8 that make it through the Great Tribulation yes that is what I have been taught; those are the MORTALS that are STILL Alive…they are NOT transformed to spirit bodies.; this is when you will see them able to be hundreds of years old verses just the 70 or 80 years ……the 1000 years is where they are gonna got RE EDUCATED and MATURE with reference to the covenant during that MILLENNIAL time frame.

  10. use ur concordance to understand the original thought,..because it is to be interpreted in the Hebrew. Virgins takes u to set apart. So these people r not brothers or sisters who did not have children. The English language is a veil brother put up by the children of Baal. The same non-people sent to the children of the Most high to bring them into captivity. Use the Hebrew to uncover the veil,..ever word u read in scriptural text. Then ur understanding will be increased

  11. These are the same 144,000 from chapter 7.4-8 then when you read verse 8 it is from the remaining nations throughout the land that did not hurt is heritage of people and keep the commandments. Read Ezekiel chapter 9.6  whom was given the MARK or the SEAL. the VIRGINS whom are not DEFILE with woman whom FOLLOW the LAMB is MATTHEW 25.10 whom does not have the MARK of the BEAST in REVELATION 13.18, KEEPED the LAW or HEBREW name (TORAH)which is the LIGHT EXPLAINED in MATTHEW 25 about the VIRGINS loosing there LAMP of  LIGHT.PROVERBS 6.23-24; PROVERBS 1.7-8, PSALMS 111.10. Please understand that REVELATION 7.8 PERTAINS to PSALMS 111.8, PSALSM 2.1.12, 2 MACCABEES 3.25-31, WISDOM OF SOLOMON 4.18; Chapter 6 of the OTHER NATIONS.  The WORD is the LAMP for LIGHT PSALMS 119.105, JOB 41.19, PROVERBS. HOP these SCRIPTURES help provide you with some understanding SHALOM!

  12. Thers is only one group of 144,000 they leave and meet jesus in the air when the tribulation starts everyone else will go through the tribulation to be tried understand the son will have the same name of his farther and no one understands that if there were two groups christ would have said it in revelations where he revealed all the group in the wilderness is the same 144,000 which is a precept for that verse do you use your precepts the wildernesses is symbology revelations 6 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

    10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

    11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

  13. +Israel's Church : So far l can see that there maybe 2 different 144000 groups Revelation 7:5-8 & Revelation 14 & Revelation 3:12-13 <—– but are not the forgotten Hebrew baby boys you speak of where they not also to young to follow the Laws, Statutes and Commandments to over come them as they where also to young to be defiled by women….? Brother Reggie please don't misunderstand me all l am trying to do is gain understanding.

  14. +Israel's Church : Brother Reggie l do believe there are two groups and l would not dare disagree with you there that those groups are two different groups, myself and my Facebook Mishacha Israel MsShayla Eady Collins have had conversations about these two Revelation scriptures 7:5-8 & Revelation 14 because l was telling her that all of this scripture in Revelation 14 said they wouldn't been defiled by women that they would all be virgins and she said to me that no where does it say that all of the 144000 are going to be all men. But what neither one of us thought as you give food for thought that these two different scriptures maybe talking about two different groups…..but here is my question l asked you to please tell me where l can look for the scriptures that proves there will be part Hebrew Israelite and part Gentile that will met Yahushua in the air. Revelation 7:5-8 & Revelation 14 both groups are all the Children of Israel correct…..?? But my question Brother Reggie wasn't about two different groups of 144000 Hebrew Israelite groups…..my question was addressing your video called l believe "Many Are Called But Few Are Chosen" and this is the comment l posted that I asked what scriptures can l study that saids that those whom met Yahushua in the air will be part Hebrews and part Gentiles here is my comment from that video :

    +Israel's Church : Brother Reggie I only ask because in this particular video and at least one other video I heard you teach that part of those who are going to meet Yahushua the Messiah in the air are going to be part Israel and part Gentiles. I just would like to know the scriptures that you read that said this so that I can study these scriptures for myself if you can help me out with those scriptures I would greatly appreciate it. Shalom Mishacha.

  15. Thank you Brother Reggie great lesson and this motivated me to search the scriptures using precepts line upon line to agree with you I see now In scripture 2 sets off 144,000 servants of our Father the Almighty and our Messiah keep bringing the good news may the Almighty bless all your family work as well Shalam Shalam Family

  16. Shalom Brother Reggie, I cry unto YAH the God of All Life, may His Hands are pleasing to be Merciful to you and your family,friends and those that love the sacrifice of His Son Jesus with all their hearts.Praise His Almighty Name,forever.
    This topic is a cliff hanger,but I believe the 144,000 are Hebrews like your self.Those that come along once in a very long while.
    There was something that I am somewhat concerned about,actually I am distressed a bit. Many awakened Israelites proclaim Joseph to be the father of Jesus. Many like ourselves believe the book and declare Our Mashiach came by way of the Holy Spirit. Who ever is in error and is espousing this ideology will we be punished? This precept bothers me sometimes for days. I truly would love to see all the descendants of slaves make it back into the Eternal Kingdom. I know you do to, and I know you will. Long live the king.

  17. Queen Victoria,Hilary Clinton,queen of England,queen of India,queen of Chinese,Arabs,prince Harry wife,too.i think the women,and the men 144,000 are his other angels ,because that's what he gonna transform them into I believe brother,

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