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  1. Eagles in Scripture are likened to vultures. They are unclean birds that represent demons. The people taken in Luke 17:37, are taken to Hell, this is what Jesus is describing. Like in the days of Noah it will be the wicked that are swept away and taken like the wicked were taken away by the flood waters.
    Jesus never would describe Heaven as where the dead body goes…in Heaven you have life and much more abundantly. Eagles or vultures are scavengers of dead carcasses, and are unclean fowl of the air aka demons. Jesus is describing Hell as the place the ones taken in Luke 17:37 are taken to.
    This all jives with the rest of scripture:
    -Proverbs 10:25 "As the whirlwind passeth, so is the wicked no more: but the righteous is an everlasting foundation."
    -Proverbs 10:30 "The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
    -Proverbs 2:21-22 "For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it."22 But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.
    -Proverbs 3:25-26 "Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.26 "For the LORD shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken."
    -Psalm 37:22 "For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off."
    -Psalm 37:27-29 "Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.28
    For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever."
    -Psalm 37:8-11 "Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
    -In the parable of the field and the Wheat and Tares in Matthew 13:30-49 Jesus says it's the WICKED who are taken FIRST to be burned in the fire(hell).

    -Matthew 13:24-49 "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
    38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,"

    It is the wicked that are taken in the end NOT righteous!!!

  2. Part 2: the Pre – Tribulation Timing of the Rapture has always been false.

    By using all the principles we have discussed in Part 1: Take Heed How You Hear, we now can easily see why the Pre-Trib timing of the rapture by many in churchianity, is now, and always has been, false. Briefly, let us regard the accurate true apologetic reason why this is so. It is easily seen by honest ones, who are willing to admit they were ignorant of never having considered all that the Word has to say about such matters. In no point is the Word ever giving us false information. Here is what is grossly over-looked, or altogether neglected, in the false teaching that is Pre-Trib timing.

    Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them; and the souls of those who were beheaded for the witness of Yeshua, and for the Word of Elohim, and who had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Messiah a thousand years; 5 And the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were fulfilled: this is the First Resurrection.

    Let's bring forth the important ideas from this passage, with regard to the Resurrection of the dead. First, these are tribulation martyrs that are mentioned here. One cannot be a tribulation martyr without having been killed for their faith during the tribulation; this is obvious. These martyrs are intended in the phrase “the dead in Christ” (Messiah; 1 Thess 4:16); they were killed for their testimony and witness of Yeshua the Messiah. What is not so obvious to many here is what follows. They were also killed for the Word of Elohim. This means these martyrs refused to give up their witness to the Scripture of Truth in the face of false religion. They steadfastly 'held fast' to the profession of their faith when the peer pressure of multitudes who did not do so, came against them. They did not waver, nor fold, neither did they cave in under the pressure of fear of man, partiality, or respect for the persons of men. These martyrs are part of the First Resurrection; not the second, fifth, or last, or any other. They come with Messiah at the Resurrection of the dead. Now let's look at the description of the rapture event that Paul described at length.

    1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope; 14 for if we believe that Yeshua died and rose again, even so also those who sleep in Yeshua will Elo'ah bring with him; 15 for this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that: we who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not go before those who sleep; 16 for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of Elohim; and the dead in Messiah shall rise first; 17 then, we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    Messiah comes at the Resurrection of the dead. There are two people groups identified in the passage above that are to partake in this event. There is also a precise order of events that is to occur at that time. The two groups are (1) the dead in Messiah, which we have already seen in Rev 20:4-5, includes TRIBULATION martyrs. The other group (2) are “those who are alive and remain.”

  3. HEEEEY Four times in John 6 Jesus tells us when this First
    Resurrection will occur. Four times Jesus declares that this glorification of
    the righteous dead, this Resurrection of the Body of Christ, this raising up of
    "those who are in Christ", would come at the "last day".
    JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US WHEN HE WILL RESURRECT HIS SAINTS. THE RESURRECTION WILL
    OCCUR AFTER THE 70TH WEEK ENDS. HE TELLS US FOUR TIMES IN JOHN CHAPTER 6 THAT
    HE WILL "RAISE UP" OR RESURRECT HIS COVENANT PEOPLE AT THE 'LAST
    DAY'. Jesus Himself tells us plainly when He will be raising up His precious
    saints from the grave. Four times in John 6 Jesus states categorically that He
    will "raise" His people "up" at the "last day".
    So this glorious Resurrection of those that are Christ's will occur at the
    "last day". John 6:39
    "This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I
    should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day." John 6:40
    "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son
    and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the
    last day."" John 6:44 "No
    one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise
    him up at the last day." John 6:54
    "Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will
    raise him up at the last day." Is our Lord Jesus trying to get a message
    to us here? If He saw fit to tell us four times in the one message that He will
    raise His people up at the "last day" then His Word on the matter
    should be final. And who would dare tamper with the message the Holy Spirit has
    so clearly laid out for us in the Holy Scriptures? Jesus tells us that the
    Resurrection of the righteous dead will occur at the 'last day". Therefore
    it must come at the end of the 7 year period at the tail end of Daniel's 70th
    week. And therefore the Resurrection must be a Post-Tribulation event. It must
    come after the Great Tribulation. MARTHA, SISTER OF LAZARUS, WAS A SAINT FROM A
    FORMER ERA. SHE KNEW THE TIMING OF THE RESURRECTION. Here is some further
    evidence of the Resurrection of the righteous dead coming at the very end of
    the age. Martha left her kitchen to come out and get in Jesus' face over the
    death of her brother Lazarus. At that time she made a strong confession of her
    faith. She spoke of the sure hope of the Resurrection. And in her statement
    Martha also spoke in very specific terms of the timing of the Resurrection.
    Here is Martha's word on the matter and her magnificent confession of the
    blessed hope of the glorification of the saints at the resurrection. This
    account is recorded by the Apostle John. As we see here in this scripture
    below, Martha knew very well when this end-time Resurrection of the righteous
    dead would occur. John 11:24 Martha
    said to Him, "I know that he will rise again in the Resurrection at the
    last day." This seems pretty plain and straightforward doesn't it? All
    these scriptures and Revelation 20:4-6 are in total agreement. The Resurrection
    will come at the last day of this age. 2 Timothy 2:16-18 16
    Avoid worthless, foolish talk that only leads to more godless behavior. 17 This
    kind of talk spreads like cancer,[a] as in the case of Hymenaeus and Philetus.
    18 They have left the path of truth, claiming that the resurrection of the dead
    has already occurred; in this way, they have turned some people away from the
    faith

  4. Daniel 7:21-22 as Rev. 13:7 and 20:4 say the saints will go thru and die during the Tribulation, Satan's wrath.

    What is so hard to understand?

    Matthew 24 says after the Tribulation!!!

    Last/ 7th Trumpet

    Jesus coming to rule on Earth, descending from the 3rd Heaven.

    Rev. 7:9-17 martyred saints which came out of the Great Tribulation

    The Sixth Seal says the great day of His wrath is come.

    The Tribulation period ends and God's wrath begins.
    He first seals His people.

    Rev. 10:7
    At 7th Trumpet, mystery finished.

    What mystery? 1 Corinthians 15:51-53

    Jesus comes again
    1st Resurrection!
    All the dead in Christ from Adam until that very moment are raised

    This not hard to understand.
    The saints will be tempted by the Beast and his mark.

    2 Peter 3:10-13

    The 2nd Coming…like a thief in the night
    Day of the Lord

    Please look forward to this Day and speed it's coming!

    Goes nicely with 1 Thess. 5 which should not be separate paragraph from chapter 4.

    1 Thess. 5:1-5

    If taken out prior to the Day of the Lord (Tribulation), how could it possible overtake the Children of the Day/ Saints/ Church as a thief?

    It cannot possibly overtake you if you are in Heaven chowing down on Supper!

    Look2Jesus4Salvation@gmail.com

    I can make things crystal clear.

    You'll see that the Saints of Revelation are indeed the Church body.
    Rev. 12:6,12, 17 is small hint.
    Galatians 3:29

    Remember, Paul when speaking to the churches, actually uses the term "saints." So, they are the same.

    Goes nicely with Rev. 13:7, 10

    This war with Saints/Elect are also seen in Daniel 7:19-27

    Ever wonder why the book in Rev. 10 is bittersweet?
    Rev. 11:18 seems to clarify.

    Did Paul write 1 Thessalonians?
    What about 2 Corinthians?

    Surely if Paul wanted to indicate a rapture to the 3rd Heaven, he would have, but he said "in the air."

    Just trying to help.

  5. BILL SMITH, You are an IGNORAMUS on the Scriptures !! You are NOT EVEN AWARE of the FACT , that part of Jn.14:3 in the KJV Bible, is a DELIBERATE MISTRANSLATION, … ( that was done by Sir FRANCIS BACON in 1610, Before the first printing of
    the KJV in 1611 ) in which he changed the words to read ;…"I am coming again and I WILL RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF"
    That's NOT what the GREEK T.R. Declares !!!
    The GREEK Byzantine text declares;…."AGAIN I AM COMING, AND I SHALL BE TAKING ALONG YE" . That posits, "TAKING ALONG" ..the souls and Spirits of all those millions of saints. ( from heaven to earth )
    that Jesus went and prepared a place for !!! THIS FACT, is Witnessed in 1.Thess.4:14, about Christ's second Coming, ( At the SECOND ADVENT )…which reads as follows,…." For if we believe that Christ Died and Rose again, Then ALSO THOSE WHO SLEEP IN JESUS , Will God BRING WITH HIM "…( from HEAVEN to Earth )
    BILL SMITH, How can you be SO STUPID !!!

  6. APOSTACY about that earlier yeah…2 Thess. "..except there come a falling away first,.." is the Strong's G646 ἀποστασία 'apostasia' ap-os-tas-ee'-ah Feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly the state), (“apostasy”): – falling away, forsake. Total KJV occurrences: 2. 2nd occurance of G647 Act 21:21 ""AndG1161 they are informedG2727 ofG4012 thee,G4675 thatG3754 thou teachestG1321 allG3956 the JewsG2453 whichG3588 are amongG2596 theG3588 GentilesG1484 to forsakeG646 Moses,G3475 sayingG3004 that theyG846 ought notG3361 to circumciseG4059 their children,G5043 neitherG3366 to walkG4043 after theG3588 customs.G1485"" As you see, falling away can never mean "departure" in Pre-Tribulation Rapture as you propose. It is an Apostacy! True to the Greek Scriptures I might add. No "departure of saints" here, only a great backsliding, an 'apostasia'!, as Pre-Wrath Rapture says. This answered question shifted me from Pre-Trib to Pre-wrath rapture. The Strong's Greek is inescapable. One must be Intellectually dishonest to deny the truth of what I have said here.

  7. Daniel 12.2 —- "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever."
    multitudes of non believers rise as well – it doesn't say they are cleared away? the good ones are raptured because the risen dead are first. the clip above casually mentioned ZOMBIES. why all the holywood focus on zombies? because satan can read.
    At that time the son of perdition is revealed…. could the anti christ be a dead guy, a zombie? Someone that people love, but maybe not the shining knight they think he is? Someone in history that received a head wound but now he's been restored back to life by God. Along with millions of other zombies. People won't like all these strangers milling about their property.
    Would you like some dead despot in your garden? So they'll start aggressive ID checks on everyone. Guess where that leads.

    receive Christ and ask for the forgiveness of your sins, avoid what's coming. It might play out as an adventure of the PS4, but it's just Hell on earth.

  8. First off, the tribulation WAS longer than 7 years. (because we are in it)
    Secondly, nowhere in scripture are the words "7 year tribulation" contained in a sentence.
    The Great Tribulation is 42 months in length, and it's over 42 months away. (as of Feb 2017)

  9. Paul wrote in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 about the resurrection and glorification
    of Christ's followers at His return. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 shows that this will
    occur when Christ descends from heaven with a mighty shout and the great sound
    of a trumpet. This is no secret event.

    A parallel reference is 1 Corinthians 15:51-53, in which Paul plainly tells
    us that God will resurrect deceased believers to spirit at “the last trumpet.”
    This is the same “trumpet of God” mentioned in 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Paul
    further states in 1 Corinthians 15:51 that God will also change believers who
    are still living at the time into spirit. So the return of Jesus Christ and the
    resurrection of the saints occur in the same time period.

    What is the significance of the trumpet of which Paul wrote? The book of
    Revelation tells of seven trumpets sounded by seven angelic beings at the end
    of the age (the first six coming in chapters 8-9). The drama builds through
    each event announced by a trumpet blast until the seventh and final angel sounds
    in Revelation 11. His announcement is the finale, the last and greatest event:
    The return of Jesus Christ to inaugurate the Kingdom of God
    on earth.

    “Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in
    heaven, saying, ‘The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord
    and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever!’” (Revelation 11:15,
    English Standard Version).

    This trumpet announces the coming of divine wrath and the time of rewarding
    God’s servants (Revelation 11:18). And combined with the other verses, it’s
    clear that Jesus descends at the blowing of this seventh trumpet—and that this
    is when the saints are caught up to Him.

    When does this occur in the timeline of end-time events? In a prophecy Jesus
    gave, He referred to a desecration in Jerusalem—the
    abomination of desolation—to come before the Great Tribulation (Matthew
    24:15-22). This event would come 1,290 days before Daniel’s resurrection at
    Christ’s return (Daniel 12:11-13), just over 3 1⁄2 years.

    Jesus continued in Matthew 24:29: “Immediately after the tribulation of
    those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;
    the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.”
    He said that all nations on earth would see the sign of His coming and would
    mourn. Then He stated that they would see Him coming with power and glory and
    that He would send His angels to gather His resurrected followers with a great
    sound of a trumpet (Matthew 24:30-31).

    Compare this with Revelation 6, where we find a time of terrible final
    martyrdom (Revelation 6:9-11). This is followed by the heavenly signs Jesus was
    referring to and the people of the earth lamenting (Revelation 6:12-17). Notice
    the conclusion of the lament: “For the great day of His wrath has come, and who
    is able to stand?”

    This corresponds to Joel 2:31, where we are told that “the sun shall be
    turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of
    the great and awesome day of the Lord.” That means that, in the book of
    Revelation, the trumpets blown after the heavenly signs represent the time of
    the Day of the Lord.

    The seventh trumpet comes at the end of this long Day of the Lord—at
    the end of the 3 1⁄2-year period of end-time calamity. The dead in Christ are
    raised and living believers are changed and made immortal at this point in
    time. They cannot have been taken up into glory before the
    tribulation period. Scripture doesn’t allow for a rapture of the saints to
    heaven for an interim of several years!

    We see that believers aren’t taken off the earth during the Great
    Tribulation. But God will protect believers during this time of severe
    distress. The most specific reference to the protection that God promises for
    His people at the end of the age is in Revelation 12.

    Revelation 12:14 says, “But the woman [symbolic here of spiritual Israel,
    the Church of God] was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into
    the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times
    and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.” The times here denote
    years—one (time) plus two (times) plus one half (half a time), equaling 3 1⁄2
    years, the period of the Great Tribulation and Day of the Lord. And note that
    the protection is not in heaven but in the wilderness, or the desert
    as it’s often translated. It’s on the earth, not in heaven.

    There’s more to the story. The context tells us that at least part of God’s
    people will suffer persecution while God protects the rest of the faithful:
    “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the
    rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony
    of Jesus Christ” (Revelation 12:17). It is possible that the result of this
    persecution will be martyrdom.

    The Bible records many ways by which God protected His people in the past,
    but does not reveal specifically how, where or when—or even all of the “who”—He
    will protect in the end. However, we can have confidence that He will reveal
    what we need to know at the essential time. In the meantime, our focus must be
    on the spiritual preparation for Christ’s return and the establishment of our
    Father’s Kingdom (Matthew 24:38-51).

  10. If you are pre-trib, you are a false prophet, a false witness. A LIAR! CHRONIC liar at that!*******Think any false prophet is saved?Note how not one pre-trib rapture verse was presented with the rapture before the tribulation.*******A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall NOT ESCAPE!A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall PERISH!*******Something to look forward to eh?

  11. HEEY Four times in John 6 Jesus tells us when this First Resurrection will occur. Four times Jesus declares that this glorification of the righteous dead, this Resurrection of the Body of Christ, this raising up of "those who are in Christ", would come at the "last day".
    JESUS HIMSELF TELLS US WHEN HE WILL RESURRECT HIS SAINTS.
    THE RESURRECTION WILL OCCUR AFTER THE 70TH WEEK ENDS.
    HE TELLS US FOUR TIMES IN JOHN CHAPTER 6 THAT HE WILL
    "RAISE UP" OR RESURRECT HIS COVENANT PEOPLE AT THE 'LAST DAY'.
    Jesus Himself tells us plainly when He will be raising up His precious saints from the grave.
    Four times in John 6 Jesus states categorically that He will "raise" His people "up" at the "last day".
    So this glorious Resurrection of those that are Christ's will occur at the "last day".
    John 6:39 "This is the will of the Father who sent Me,
    that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing,
    but should raise it up at the last day."
    John 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me,
    that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life;
    and I will raise him up at the last day.""
    John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him;
    and I will raise him up at the last day."
    John 6:54 "Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life,
    and I will raise him up at the last day."
    Is our Lord Jesus trying to get a message to us here? If He saw fit to tell us four times in the one message that He will raise His people up at the "last day" then His Word on the matter should be final. And who would dare tamper with the message the Holy Spirit has so clearly laid out for us in the Holy Scriptures? Jesus tells us that the Resurrection of the righteous dead will occur at the 'last day". Therefore it must come at the end of the 7 year period at the tail end of Daniel's 70th week. And therefore the Resurrection must be a Post-Tribulation event. It must come after the Great Tribulation.
    MARTHA, SISTER OF LAZARUS, WAS A SAINT FROM A FORMER ERA.
    SHE KNEW THE TIMING OF THE RESURRECTION.
    Here is some further evidence of the Resurrection of the righteous dead coming at the very end of the age. Martha left her kitchen to come out and get in Jesus' face over the death of her brother Lazarus. At that time she made a strong confession of her faith. She spoke of the sure hope of the Resurrection. And in her statement Martha also spoke in very specific terms of the timing of the Resurrection.
    Here is Martha's word on the matter and her magnificent confession of the blessed hope of the glorification of the saints at the resurrection. This account is recorded by the Apostle John. As we see here in this scripture below, Martha knew very well when this end-time Resurrection of the righteous dead would occur.
    John 11:24
    Martha said to Him,
    "I know that he will rise again
    in the Resurrection
    at the last day."
    This seems pretty plain and straightforward doesn't it?
    All these scriptures and Revelation 20:4-6 are in total agreement.
    The Resurrection will come at the last day of this age.

    2 Timothy 2:16-18 16 Avoid worthless, foolish talk that only leads to more godless behavior. 17 This kind of talk spreads like cancer,[a] as in the case of Hymenaeus and Philetus. 18 They have left the path of truth, claiming that the resurrection of the dead has already occurred; in this way, they have turned some people away from the faith

  12. Our souls go to heaven,our bodies are left behind for the aliens to devour as God promised that to them.I guess it's doing God a favor to get all the mess cleaned up down here and then the aliens get fed.,as God promised.Sounds terrible,I know,but it's God's plan,then the new kingdom for Yeshua,our Christ Lord Jesus will come.God has all who He is going to use in position as they all have a part to do-it's in his plan.God is in control.Gods angels are everywhere,they have a job assigned to them from God!!I have seen my angels here in my home,they are gorgeous!!I think Gods waiting for everybody to be on the same wave length,then He will take our spirit up and come back and look for His lost sheep as He will not leave any of His children behind!Thankyou Lord!!We are Gods children and we have fallen…..We have to ask Jesus to save us and take us to heaven,our home.God has a mansion for each of us He built just to match our personality,,as He made us with His own two bare hands!!Were special…and our homes can be as big as a block long or even a mile long!!Go figure,I ca'nt wait and also we receive scroll from God as it's about our real life that God had really intended for us to live by, His plans…….not satans!!!!We have to have a new body to get into heaven,the one were using now is just a suit case to protect our spirit.

  13. There's an event that happens at each trumpet blast. There's not going to be one trumpet right after the next. I believe the third trumpet has been sounded at this time.

  14. THERE WILL BE NO PRE-TRIB OR POST TRIB, SORRY ABOUT THAT!

    Rev 15:2 is a key verse that reveals that all those who became victorious over the beast are now at this point in Heaven. The main point is all of God’s people are in Heaven at this point in the Tribulation. And what point in the Tribulation do we find this event taking place? All you have to do is read what takes place immediately after this event and then we will learn exactly when all the saints will be with God in Heaven during the Tribulation.

    2 I saw before me what seemed to be a glass sea mixed with fire. And on it stood all the people who had been victorious over the beast and his statue and the number representing his name.

    Rev 15:5
    The Seven Bowls of the Seven Plagues
    5 Then I looked and saw that the Temple in heaven, God’s Tabernacle, was thrown wide open. 6 The seven angels who were holding the seven plagues came out of the Temple. They were clothed in spotless white linen[b] with gold sashes across their chests. 7 Then one of the four living beings handed each of the seven angels a gold bowl filled with the wrath of God, who lives forever and ever. 8 The Temple was filled with smoke from God’s glory and power. No one could enter the Temple until the seven angels had completed pouring out the seven plagues.

    Verse 7 reveals that the seven bowls of the seven plagues are the WRATH of God being poured out upon the earth. It is clear that the Bible teaches that God’s people are not destined for Wrath and is backed up by with verse 2 in which it states that all of the people who were victorious over the Beast are now in Heaven. Again, all means all are in Heaven before verse 5 which is the Wrath of God.

    Let’s do this one more time. Let’s see if we can find another place in the Bible that clearly shows that all the saints are in Heaven just before the Wrath of God commences.

    Rev 11:18 is the exact middle of the Tribulation. Let’s read what events take place during this time.

    The nations were filled with wrath,
    but now the time of your wrath has come.
    It is time to judge the dead
    and reward your servants the prophets,
    as well as your holy people,
    and all who fear your name,
    from the least to the greatest.
    It is time to destroy
    all who have caused destruction on the earth.”

    There it is again, it’s time to reward all of God’s people, all who fear God’s name.
    Tell me how can God reward all His people unless all of His people are now at this point in the Tribulation in Heaven?

    And look at what else it is time for;

    The nations were filled with wrath,
    but now the time of your wrath has come.

    Wait there is much more proof that we will be here on this earth right up to the half way point in the Tribulation. Let read the next verse, Rev 11:19

    19 Then, in heaven, the Temple of God was opened and the Ark of his covenant could be seen inside the Temple. Lightning flashed, thunder crashed and roared, and there was an earthquake and a terrible hailstorm.

    If you have the truth the Bible will interpret it’s self over and over but if you have a lie you will have to force things to fit.

    If we can find another reference in the Bible that speaks of an earthquake that is associated with the Wrath of God then all we have to do is see what event takes place just before the earthquake or just before the Wrath of God.

    Rev 6
    9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 and they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

    12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 for the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    There it is again, an earthquake associated with the Wrath of God and look what takes place just before the Wrath of God commences.

    How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

    and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

    The souls who were martyred during the Tribulation apparently didn’t have to wait long for the for the Lord’s response. This is the same earthquake taking place in Rev 11 and Rev 6 is just another picture of the same day. Both Rev 11 and Rev 6 take place at the exact half way point in the Tribulation and both show all of God’s people in Heaven and then the Wrath of God breaks out.

    If we had to wait until the end of the Wrath of God which is the last half of the Tribulation no one would be left to be Raptured. Jesus said unless those days are shortened no one would survive. Those days are shortened when the Rapture takes place at the half way point in the Tribulation.
    I could do this all day long with much more convincing proof that we will be here up until the half way point in the Tribulation. But in my experience if anyone doesn’t get it now there will be no convincing anyone that this is in fact the truth.

    After all deceived people are called deceived for a very good reason; you cannot reason with deceived people because they are deceived.

    Ranger
    1111.lefora.com

  15. 100% really!? The righteous shall never be removed, but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.Only with thine eyes shalt thou see the destruction of the wicked.Until thy wrath be past.Immediately After the tribulation.100% proof? Then you must have this pre-trib rapture verse that has the rapture before the tribulation. You don't? So it is ALL OPINION? YIKES!

  16. Jesus, his father or whoever is the new sky daddy, needs to hurry the fuck up and get the idiots off the planet. These fuckers have to go and Jesus should postpone sex with Allah to come get his sheep; because all they are doing is dumping manure everywhere.

  17. DEFINITIVE PROOF THAT PRE-TRIB IS A LIE

    If the Rapture and the First Resurrection are before the Tribulation then who are these people who have had their heads chopped off during the Tribulation and are a part of the First Resurrection?

    Revelation 20:4-5

    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

    We all know that the Resurrection takes place first then we who are alive and remain will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    Again, If the Rapture and the First Resurrection are before the Tribulation then who are these people who have had their heads chopped off during the Tribulation and are a part of the First Resurrection?

    How do we know these people had their heads chopped off during the Tribulation and are a part of the First Resurrection?

    1. They had their heads chopped off for telling everyone about Jesus.

    2. They had their heads chopped off for not worshipping the Beast or his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads or in their hands.

    The fact that these people refused to worship the Beast or receive his mark upon their foreheads means they were in fact there during the Tribulation.

    I conclude that the First Resurrection of the dead takes place somewhere during the Tribulation. If you can find when the First Resurrection takes place during the Tribulation you can also find when the Rapture will take place because they take place back to back, right.

    The Return of the Lord
    …15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.…

    According to the word of God the First Resurrection and the Rapture take place during the Tribulation which means Pre-Trib is a lie and a false teaching.

    STILL NOT CONVINCED, JUST READ THE FOLLOWING
    Most Christians believe they won't be part of the tribulation however the Bible says believers that die will be Resurrect First on the last day… right? so if they will be resurrected on the last day how can the church be taken before the tribulation?

    Who are you going to believe? The bible that states that believers will be Resurrected on the last day, at the last Trumpet or the Pre-Trib folk that ignore these facts.

    Believe me Saints of God we will be here on earth for the first three and a half years of the Great Tribulation prepare for it. For certain we will not be on this earth for the last half of the Tribulation because this is the time of the Wrath of God and the bible teaches that we are not destined for Wrath.
    Ranger

  18. Now it's not longer 2016 because it's almost over so here we go again predicting something to happen in 2017. When will you false prophets ever learn there is no known date for the day of the Lord that will melt you into hot lava?

  19. I like this explanation it really makes me think this is true but my hubby is pretty set that this happens after the tribulation ends but either way we are very sure of our faith!

  20. You just answered something i was wondering Thanks
    i have believed Rapture a normal day
    Pope the False Prophet Mohammad the Muslim Jesus
    O the Antichrist these 3 the unholy trinitry

  21. The false prophet and the antichrist are 2 different people. Rapture then the antichrist is revealed. He has a short time (7 years), so the tribulation starts right after the catching away.

  22. Not 5 seconds…4 months before the 7 year tribulation begins. Now that great deception you think that is coming is is the Rapture. They will blame the rapture on a terrorist attack. Then the world will come together to fight terror and once they win this war then comes the peace treaty. The white rider of rev.6 comes with a bow. This signifies war. Now you need to ask your self this question before you dismiss the pretribulation rapture. What makes the 144,000 turn to christ that they are sealed? Psalm 40:3, many shall see it (the rapture) and fear and trust in the Lord. Now notice that nothing is to be hurt before the 144,000 are sealed. So Tribulation hasn't happened yet when these are sealed. Now im going to show you some thing and I pray the lord opens your eyes. In revelation 3:10, these are kept from what will befall the WHOLE earth. In revelation 3:8 a Door is opened. In revelation 4:1 he sees a door in heaven. Now who is this door that will keep them from the hour of temptation that will TRY the whole world? Jesus ofcourse he is the door of the sheep and the sheep hear his voice and he leads them to find pasture. John 10:7. This is the first Rapture. You see you need to understand that in the time of tribulation there are two differences with in this 7 year period. There is the time of temptation, the time of Trials. For God says it is a Trial (rev 3:10, eze 21:13). And the time of WRATH. When you are under trial you are not under WRATH. Wrath comes when you fail at the Trial. If your testing your son are you going to be mad at him if he does good? NO. But if he fails then your wrath will be justified. The Wrath of God comes at the end of tribulation when all that are left in the world have failed the time of trials. Jesus says to pray…and lead us not into temptation. Lead me not into the Trials. But deliver us from evil…Rapture me from those evil days. The time of Trials are signified by Gods 7 trumpets. A trumpet is a sign of warning not Wrath. So as long as the trumpet sound there is still hope. But at the last trumpet some thing amazing happens once more. Some thing that makes Jesus lord of Lord of this world. And it happens right before Gods Bowls of WRATH come upon this world. In Luke 14 there is the parable of the GREAT Supper…Read carefully. Luke 14:21-23. How many times does the servant go out into the streets to fill his home? Sit here and argue the word of the Lord yet have you considered that there are two Raptures? One keeps those that have found grace from God out of the trials of man and the other keeps those that have found God with in the tribulation, that have passed the test from his wrath? In revelation 5:9 a NEW song is sung. This is the song of salvation. Thank you Jesus for taking us out of what was to come! Then in revelation 14:3 another song is sung but this is not a new song, because it is AS IF IT WAS A NEW SONG. It's the same song but its not new because it was sung at the beginning before Tribulation. I can show you so many scriptures that will seem to contradict each other. This is why this debate goes one all the time. Both sides are right. There is a rapture that keeps us from what befalls the whole earth. And there is also a Rapture that keeps those that have found Jesus in tribulation and are sealed by God from his wrath to come. There are TWO RAPTURES. One when the door is opened in heaven and the other at the Last trump. When Jesus has saved all that will be saved from this earth making him King of kings and Lord of Lords. And those that are left will enter Gods wrath and die. Dont argue the word of God…God never intened that for us…Listen to it. Jeremiah 33:3, Call unto me and I will answer thee and show you great and mighty things which thou knowest not. GB

  23. While I do not concur with the subject matter of many of the videos posted on your channel, I will agree with what you have stated in this one:
    Amen. At the rapture, I believe God will use the very same series of trumpet blasts He instructed Moses to use in the desert for the "call to assembly".
    Amen. The rapture event does not begin the 7 years of judgment – there will be an unknown period of time between the rapture and the CONFIRMATION OF THE COVENANT.
    Amen. There is NO possible connection between the described conditions on earth (business as usual) at the time of the rapture event, and the very DIFFERENT described condition the world will be in (nearly destroyed) at the end of the 7 years of tribulation when the 2nd Coming takes place.
    Maranatha! Praise Messiah

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