Pre-Trib Rapture Lie Placed The Church To Rest

Pay attention pre-tribbs if we really did not respect you we would certainly inform you absolutely nothing as well as simply prepare ourselves & leave you hanging. That’s much easier compared to attempting to caution you & obtaining assaulted. Think of that. Most of you have actually revealed that you enjoy this lie greater than you enjoy us. You could have it after that i’m going on. The adversity will certainly simply need to discuss points to you from right here on out. Below’s the last 3 crucial points I’m leaving. Ask the Holy Spirit to validate if this holds true if you recognize the best ways to hear Him.
1 God’s rage does not strike his individuals in the past, throughout or after the adversity it just strikes those with the mark of the monster. 2Antichrist comes prior to or throughout the adversity acting to be Jesus. 3Christ returns after the adversity & burns His adversaries.

( Initial Tape Name) Get Ready For The Coming Mistreatment
By: Apostle Peter Michael Martinez

Below’s the concern you pre-tribbers have to ask yourselves. If this rescue rapture deceptiveness is actually real exactly what makes you believe you will be raptured? Christians in Russia had to be raptured when the soviets mass killed them as well as they just weren’t, christians in ww2 europe had to be raptured prior to the bombs landeded on them in their cities. Where was their rapture? Christians today as well as throughout the ages have actually endured as well as been eliminated in mass for the name of Christ. Where was their rapture? Are you much more professional compared to all of them to go up in a retreat rapture? Please discuss why you western christians will certainly be raptured as well as why all those prior to you were not. As well as inform me why you rapture stressed western christians do not desire any kind of component of the saint’s crown which is the greatest incentive you could recieve in paradise.

The adversity consists of God’s as well as satan’s wratch & God’s rage will not strike the saints, His rage strikes the skeptics so exactly what are you bothered with? satan’s rage, we he cannot do anything without God’s authorization or either your authorization by fearing him as well as unknowning your God enabled, civil liberties as well as authority over every one of satan’s kingdom. God claimed his individuals are ruined as a result of an absence of understanding & I think that is the factor numerous pass away in the adversity. These priests exist when they inform you that you do not have to find out about guide of discovery since you are going to fly away prior to adversity in rapture. It’s just a lie from the pit of heck. Check out psalms 91 that’s really a guarantee of defense God made to the church that tidies up their hearts now getting rid of all satisfaction. Learn how to rely on God in any kind of scenario rather than wagering on myths of males or manipulated analyses of the bibles that calm the flesh. God will certainly secure His very own in the fire so quit being afraid also the appearance of threat as well as persevere in the count on of God. If somebody draws a shotgun on you tonite recognize God is still in control as well as He alone makes a decision if that weapon could discharge as well as if you will certainly pass away not the devil had individual holding the weapon. Below’s a video clip of a girl running a armed burglar with the power of God.https://youtu.be/ciTa0Mrfy0g This is exactly what most of us must be doing rather than being afraid life’s adversities. Quit depending on the simplest escape as well as exercise your civil liberties. No tool developed versus you will succeed, I reprehend you in Jesus name, Blood of Jesus Blood of Jesus, learn how to state these points when endangered by lethal threat. God honor all you pre-tribbers as well as everybody else.
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  1. EricBowser111: God bless you for you teaching I to beg you see some videos that I went up in youtube about this: the great tribulation began in december 1997. We are in the great tribulation, as Matthew 24:20 30 says, the Lord will arrive in these days. aleluya. Mi channel is; wholeworldification. He is coming.

  2. What a shame the antichrist has been revealed and the mark of the beast is around the corner (Sunday law) and people still believe in a rapture. Thank God for taking me to those who understand his word and the Holy Spirit bringing me out of darkness.

  3. The Apostle John taught Polycarp who taught Irenaeus and they said the gathering of the church occurs before the tribulation. 1 Corinthians and 2 Thessalonians both are clear that Jesus comes TO THE CLOUDS and gather the dead in Christ and those alive in Him and takes them to be with Him, He made it clear He does not come to earth at the rapture and His second coming is the first time He sets foot on earth. He also declares that once we are taken with Him to the place prepared we are never apart from Him. This alone states that the church is taken up to the place He prepared not returned immediately down with Him at the second coming. It cannot be after the tribulation as He goes to the place with us and at the second coming He comes down here and stays until Judgement day afterwards He and all left live on new earth. The only time He can go take us to the place He prepared (John 14) is before the end of tribulation. Saying otherwise violates scripture. We know from John 14 that He will come and take us to the place He has prepared, we know from 1 Corinthians and 2 Thessalonians that once He gathers us to Him on the Day of the Lord we are NEVER apart, We know from 2Thessalonians that God will punish the world to avenge the church of the tribulations put on her by the world since she began, we know from Revelation 3 that the church is kept from that time of testing and that’s a promise of Jesus Himself just like taking us to be with Him in the place He prepared while the world remains. We know from Revelation 20 that those killed by the Antichrist remain dead until after Armageddon meaning they Must die after the rapture when ALL the dead in Christ are gathered up and taken to the place prepared. Scripture cannot be denied, and promises of Jesus cannot be broken, the church is kept from that time of testing, the church is taken to the place He prepared as He promised, Jesus goes with us to the place prepared, and Jesus will not be in that place He prepared after His second coming at Armageddon so He can only go there before His second coming.

  4. I pray that what is new in ‘The Revelation’ that John received will be revealed in 2018.

    In Rev. 21:5-7 Jesus who sat on the throne said to John, “Behold, I make all things new.” –“It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.” — “He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.”

    Because no one saw what is new in ‘The Revelation’, The Son of Him who sat on the throne “had a name written that no one knew except Himself.” — “and His name is called The Word of God” < Rev. 19:12-13. The Son of Him who sat on the throne is the Lamb in Rev. 5:7 that was found worthy to take the book out of the right hand of Him who sits on the throne.

    “Written in Luke 13:35 + Matt. 23:39 Jesus said, “I say to you, you shall not see Me until the time comes when you say”, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.” He who comes in the name of the Lord as written here is the Son of Him who sits on the throne. – Amen

  5. Only the wicked will be raptured.

    Tares will be taken first…
    Jesus said where the carcass is the birds will gather…
    In the days of Noah the wicked were ‘taken’ the day Noah went into ark.
    It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

    Matthew 24:28
    Matthew 24:38-39
    Luke 17:37
    Hebrews 10:31

    Check these out to confirm what I’m saying.

  6. I am sorry sir, but you are totally wrong. The Lord gave notification that the 5 wise and the 5 foolish virgins would ALL slumber and sleep. The only thing that revived them was the shout that 'the bridegroom cometh'. That is exactly the message of the pre tribulation rapture. It is the knowledge that the Lord Jesus Christ could return AT ANY MOMENT for His Bride which keeps the child of God on his toes.
    It is the lies that those who believe that the Church will go through the Tribulation period, and that the gospel would spread successfully throughout the world before the end of the age, along with the nonsense of taking the prophecies which are specifically for Israel and applying them to the Church – it is these false teachings which have made the church sleep, thinking that these prophecies must be fulfilled before Christ comes for His own. This is the lie of Satan to hide the blessed hope of the church from them.

  7. Context, context, context… Matthew 24:3 – the disciples didn't ask about the rapture, it was an unknown to them, revealed to Paul, but instead they asked about his coming and the end of the world… the rapture is the harpazo, original Greek language Paul wrote in, the snatching away, caught up, rapturo in Latin, the rapture…Matthew 24 is the 2nd coming, when ALL will see Him, the rapture only the church, true believers, will see Him, out happens in the twinkling of the eye; the trump of God, the voice of the archangel, will only be heard in heaven, the signal from the Father for Christ to gather his bride… you must go deeper into the word to see and understand…if you read Matthew 24 and read Revelation, you'll see many similarities, such as Matthew 24:9, Matthew 24:15, the abomination of desolation, which is the anti-christ standing in the temple claiming himself as god… and read further in Matthew and compare to Revelation… start there, pray and study, and the truth will be revealed, this man does not speak the full truth, but his own opinion and belief mixed with some truth, common among deceivers, whether they realize they are deceiving or not…

  8. Those who proclaim Rapture … the Doctrine of Edward Irving and John Nelson Darby, are deceivers. Read our Fathers word …. There is one book specific to the end of this earth iteration, it’s called the book of Revelation of Jesus Christ. There is not one mention of rapture in the whole of the book or Revelation of Jesus Christ……..The only biblical text which mentions rapture is Ezekiel 13, starting at verse 17………. Read that before blindly following these Darbyites and Irvingites.

  9. Amillennialists are mostly steeped in law, hence their need to put forth the notion that they will 'earn' their way into heaven after the horrors of the Tribulation. The remnant of the 144,000 Jews will take the gospel to the Jews who will then all accept Christ as Lord and Saviour as explained. Not one of the Amillennialists has ever explained that there are two separate events which cannot be made into one. In the rapture, which does have a Greek word origin, we will meet Christ IN THE AIR. He does not come to earth, or the Bible would say so. We are snatched up to be with Him. Sorry that some preachers don't like the idea because it does not involved suffering but for that already suffered in this world. Later, during Armageddon when it looks as if Jerusalem will fall, Christ comes back down TO THE EARTH WITH THE CHURCH, the Believers/Christians, and HE PLANTS HIS FEET UPON JERUSALEM and the war is over. Satan is cast into fire and those who did not believe. There will then be the new heaven and the new earth. Why is that so hard to believe when the Scriptures say so clearly? but for people who just have to live under law and constant condemnation whispered by the enemy.

  10. The rapture reference begins in Daniel and is about Israel and the judgement on them. There are two events only in which Christ comes, and the first is the Rapture when we 'meet Him in the air,' and He does not come to the earth at that time, hence the word 'air.' That is just as written. The Second Coming of Christ is during the battle of Armageddon when it appears that Israel will fall, but Christ will come WITH THE CHURCH and will plant His feet upon Jerusalem to reign forever. Those are two distinctly separate events. The anti-Rapture pastors have become rather militant and discouraging for people who are believers, and to me, they come across as preaching a kind of self-righteousness so as Gentiles to suffer along with Israel…I don't know where they get it, but I have heard the Rapture preached since the 70's. That message has not changed though the replacement theology of non-Rapture is more about law than deliverance. We are not under law for salvation.

  11. sounds like to me everyone of you have a point . we humans all think we are right that's why the world is in s such a mess. Self righteous is so easy because no one on earth can interpret right . I used to be a pre trip but the more I read the Bible and prayed I come to the conclusion it had to be mid trip. and I have read studied and studied and now I'm certain it will be post trip. I don't feel we will go through the worst of tribulation but we will be here when the antichrist comes in or the Bible would not warn his people to not take the mark 666 some will die for Christ's sake. but I believe God will protect us from the wrath also when you die it don't make sense to go to heaven then go back to the grave a be raised if you are already in heaven. the dead know nothing till they are raised at the last trumpet. and those who are alive will follow.i know there is no rapture in the Bible but there is a catching away means the same. I can see why everyone interprets the Bible So many different ways. is the part where it says one will be taken and the other left we'll think about it it's true the rapture is at the end where the dead rise first then the Christians on earth will follow. and those left will be judged and sent to hell. we all have our own beliefs and just because we all see different doesn't. Mean we will go to hell. what matters is we are not fooled by the antichrist because we know he will be wise and work wonders . I do have a message for one comment someone used the word prick that is not christian way to live. God said it's not what goes into the mouth that defiles the man it's what comes out so I will pray God will condemn you and you repent. God bless all your comments . It's good to hear others point of view and not get ugly with anyone and try to see all perspectives and ray one for another we all have to answer to God at judgment day.God is not pleased with confusion and all of you have confused each other with your words. every scripture that you all said was true but it's like a gig saw puzzle all has to fit. God bless you all and I pray wisdom and knowledge over you all🙏🙏

  12. The pre- tribulation is widely under attack from within the church in these last days, which says something about it alone. answer me this with your KJV.

    THE REVELATION: Why is the term church so prominent in 1:4, 1:11, 1:20, 2:1, 2:7, 2:8, 2:11, 2:12, 2:17, 2:18, 2:23, 2:29, 3:1, 3:6, 3:7, 3:13, 3:14, 3:22 and NOT mentioned again till 22:16? If you can answer this question feel free to do so using ONLY the word of God.

    The Olivette discourse or Matthew 24 is Revelation 6 on thru, by the way.

    One could argue about the ‘souls of them that were slain’ in Rev 6 but how is it that John was in heaven and only recognized them as such.

    could it be that is why the 144k Jewish “Billy Grahams “in another chapter sent them to their deaths for their testimony?

    Let’s regress to the mount of trans configuration, how is it John being there knew exactly who Moses and Elijah were, right there on earth? I think John did a great job in recognizing the church when he seen it.

    Let’s go to Genesis 5 shall we and plug Enoch, the verse is 24, BOOM! Gone!

    You and I both are truly living in the time of Noah and Lot as Jesus suggests. Do you not notice the armies forming from Ezekiel 38? So, what is it we are to do? Luke 21:28

    If ‘you don’t know the day and hour’ as Jesus mentioned (I strongly believe that) how is it you can calculate the day of Christs return based off of the abomination of desolation. With a mid or post trib-view that’s what you get a set date!

    Where is your blessed hope when ALL the inhabitants of the earth INCLUDING you say these things REV 6:15-17.

    I posed a few very challenging questions and observations based off of my pre-trib view from the King James Version, what say you?

  13. Jesus said he would resurrect the believer "on the last day" in John chapter 6. Indeed, Christ repeated the statement FOUR times in that chapter saying those that believe in Him will be raised from the dead on "the last day." (John 6:39, 40, 44, 54). If the dead in Christ are raised at the last day, how then can that "last day" happen 7 years before the 2nd coming of Christ, and still be the last day?' (I Corinthians 15:51-52, I Thessalonians 4:13-17).

  14. I was raised in a church that preached pre tribulation rapture and I believed it ! Then I wanted to prove pre trib true ! After tons of Bible study I found out that pre trib rapture was a lie from the pit of hell and that "pre wrath" rapture was true. Then I wanted to find someone who agreed with me. I found 3 …actually more than three but I want to mention these three… Robert Vancampen , Marvin Rosenthal, Steven Anderson.

  15. Respectfully, I am going to follow what I believe the scripture strongly teaches and that is the Bride of Christ is about to be caught up in Pre-Tribulation rapture. I also believe that the "Appointed Time" will be during the "Feast of Trumpets." Thus, I am hopeful for the rapture on Sept 21 sunset to Sept 22 sunset 2017 (Jerusalem Time). We are going home in the rapture of the Church very soon! After reading some of the postings on these threads, I am troubled by the people who want to deny the Bible truth of a Pre-Tribulation rapture. Why are some so insistent on trying to rob the Body of Christ of their blessed hope? The Bible clearly teaches a Pre-Tribulation rapture of all true born-again believers. If you want to prepare to endure the Great Tribulation, have at it! From the words of a Legacy Five song entitled Living in The Palace, “I will be living in the Palace, dining with the King, joining the angels as they sing, Holy is Our Lord! … I will be walking with the Lion and the Lamb by the Tree of Life in the Promised Land.” The truth as the bible teaches is that ALL true born-again Christians that have been washed in the precious blood of Jesus Christ will be "caught up" in the soon approaching Pre-Tribulation rapture of the Church. The Tribulation period has nothing to do with the Church Age Saints. The "Time of the Gentiles" will soon be fulfilled at the rapture of the Church and the Age of Grace will be over. The seven (7) year tribulation period, also referred to as the Time of Jacob's Troubles, will be centered on the Nation of Israel and the Jews. The Bible clearly teaches that the Church Age saints will be raptured BEFORE the 7 Year Tribulation period. Matthew Chapter 24 must be rightly divided. Here, the Lord Jesus Christ is speaking to Jews about future events that will involve the Nation of Israel. Importantly, the tribulation period (Daniel’s 70th Week), is also referred to as the “Time of Jacob’s Trouble,” since it deals with the Nation of Israel and the Jews. It is important to distinguish between the “RAPTURE” and the “SECOND COMING.” In the Rapture, Our Lord Jesus Christ will come before the tribulation to receive His Bride. The “blood washed” saints will receive their “glorified bodies,” be “married” to the bridegroom and appear before the “Bema Judgment Seat” to receive our “rewards.” The rapture is primarily described in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 and John 14:2-3. On the other hand, in the event known as the “Second Coming,” Jesus will return during the Battle of Armageddon at the end of the Tribulation period. The Church will accompany Him in their new glorified bodies. Christ will destroy the enemies and nations that oppose Israel and the Gospel. Jesus Christ will reign for 1000 years in His Millennial Kingdom. At the rapture, the “times of the Gentiles” will be fulfilled, God’s focus will return to the Nation of Israel. Revelation Chapter 4:1-5 reveals powerful clues that indicate a Pre-Tribulation rapture or catching away of the Church. It is worthy to note that the word “church” appears nineteen times in the first three chapters of Revelation, but, significantly, the word is not used again until chapter 19. In other words, in the entire lengthy description of the Tribulation in Revelation, the word church is noticeably absent. In fact, the Bible never uses the word "church" in a passage relating to the Tribulation. Perhaps, the reason is that Revelation Chapter 4 reveals the end of the Church age and the beginning of the 7 year Tribulation period or the 70th week of Daniel (Daniel Chapter 9: 24-27).

  16. You are right, but I think there will be a fake rapture involving aliens (demons) snatching up the cowardly masses in churches that preach the satanic doctrine of a pre-tribulation rapture. The ones taken will be the TARES. I want to be " left behind"!

  17. If it's post tribulation then why look for the coming of the lord why don't we look for the anti christ and tribulation then we would know the lord will come back within 7 years right.  Fellow saints some of us so called saints won't make the pre trib rapture thus going through the worst time in history never to be duplicated ,walk close to the lord he looking for a spotless bride. Just my 2 cents.   Love you all. God bless.

  18. The rapture isnt the 1st or 2nd coming of Christ. It is Christ coming to save his followers from Gods wrath. Just like God told Noah and just like he told Lot. You really think you're going to survive a seven year tribulation ? You're not. Sorry but this what Christ meant when he said many shall come in my name.

  19. If you want to prepare to endure the Great Tribulation, have at it! From the words of a Legacy Five song entitled Living in The Palace, “I will be living in the Palace, dining with the King, joining the angels as they sing, Holy is Our Lord! … I will be walking with the Lion and the Lamb by the Tree of Life in the Promised Land.” The truth as the bible teaches is that ALL true born-again Christians that have been washed in the precious blood of Jesus Christ will be "caught up" in the soon approaching Pre-Tribulation rapture of the Church. The Tribulation period has nothing to do with the Church Age Saints. The "Time of the Gentiles" will soon be fulfilled at the rapture of the Church and the Age of Grace will be over. The seven (7) year tribulation period, also referred to as the Time of Jacob's Troubles, will be centered on the Nation of Israel and the Jews. The Bible clearly teaches that the Church Age saints will be raptured BEFORE the 7 Year Tribulation period. Matthew Chapter 24 must be rightly divided. Here, the Lord Jesus Christ is speaking to Jews about future events that will involve the Nation of Israel. Importantly, the tribulation period (Daniel’s 70th Week), is also referred to as the “Time of Jacob’s Trouble,” since it deals with the Nation of Israel and the Jews. It is important to distinguish between the “RAPTURE” and the “SECOND COMING.” In the Rapture, Our Lord Jesus Christ will come before the tribulation to receive His Bride. The “blood washed” saints will receive their “glorified bodies,” be “married” to the bridegroom and appear before the “Bema Judgment Seat” to receive our “rewards.” The rapture is primarily described in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 and John 14:2-3. On the other hand, in the event known as the “Second Coming,” Jesus will return during the Battle of Armageddon at the end of the Tribulation period. The Church will accompany Him in their new glorified bodies. Christ will destroy the enemies and nations that oppose Israel and the Gospel. Jesus Christ will reign for 1000 years in His Millennial Kingdom. At the rapture, the “times of the Gentiles” will be fulfilled, God’s focus will return to the Nation of Israel. Revelation Chapter 4:1-5 reveals powerful clues that indicate a pre-Tribulation rapture or catching away of the Church. It is worthy to note that the word “church” appears nineteen times in the first three chapters of Revelation, but, significantly, the word is not used again until chapter 19. In other words, in the entire lengthy description of the Tribulation in Revelation, the word church is noticeably absent. In fact, the Bible never uses the word "church" in a passage relating to the Tribulation. Perhaps, the reason is that Revelation Chapter 4 reveals the end of the Church age and the beginning of the 7 year Tribulation period or the 70th week of Daniel (Daniel Chapter 9: 24-27).

  20. I've been reading the comments and just want to put my thoughts in this discussion.
    First, I would like to say that I was born and raised with the Pre-Tribulation doctrine…that's all I knew for the first 12-14 years of my life. I had no clue or idea of anything else until I was 14-15 years old and really started reading the Bible for myself.
    I am in no way saying that the Pre-Tribulation is heresy or a lie. However, I as I have gotten older and read more of the Word of God; I find myself very conflicted about the Rapture.
    While I agree on many of the Pre-Trib ideas there's one that I'm quite hung up on…the Pre-Trib Rapture tells me that the Great Tribulation is Gods Wrath and I am really struggling with this.
    When we look back at Sodom & Gomorrah and the Flood "Jesus tells us too" there are 2 key events that happen in both of them…first, we see Abraham pleading with God…"God if I can find 50 people will you spare them". Abraham whittled it down to 1 person…and he could not find 1 person to be saved because all of their hearts were turned so far away against God. Second, after Lot was moved out of the way…ALL OF THE WICKED were destroyed…not some of them, not most of them, all of them!!!
    When we look at the Flood we see the 2 same things…the door to the Ark being closed shut by God…"sealing off salvation; no one from this point forward can be saved." Also, after Noah was taken out of the way ALL OF THE WICKED were destroyed…not some of them, not most of them, all of them!!!
    Now, when I look at the Great Tribulation I see the 2 prophets and the 144,000 witnesses called to preach the Gospel to all the ends of the earth…so clearly…1 person can still be saved…meaning the door to salvation has not yet been shut. Also, all of the wicked are still on the earth. Not only that but their wickedness continues to abound growing stronger and stronger reaching a crescendo where they feel like they can defeat Jesus when he comes back.
    How can the Great Tribulation be Gods wrath if people are being saved and the wicked are still on the earth? 
    Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong. Regardless, we should support and love each other despite our view on the Rapture.
    God Bless 🙂

  21. God bless America. 1 Timothy 2 tells me to pray for my country not curse it. The great satan and mystery Babylon is not North America, it is Saudi Arabia , mecca The desert of the sea surrounded by waters as in Isaiah. The Turkish antichrist is islamic and coming to invade Israel. Believers are grafted into Israel ( Romans 9-11 ). Keep your eye on Turkey, " The seat of satan. " Satan's seat did not move, it is still as written in Revelation, Pergamum. The 10 mideast nations of Psalms 83 will join forces invade Israel.

  22. Jesus told Peter  in Matthew 16:18 that He will build His Church on this Rock and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. Satan will not prevail at all against the church if you read in Daniel 7:21-22 and Revelation 13:5-8 the Anti-Christ has the authority to make war against the saints and prevail and overcome them. The Tribulation Saints are NOT the Church Saints who are the Bride of Christ. Jesus has come for His bride in the Rapture and the Gentiles who are saved during the Tribulation will be martyred by having their head cut off. Once the Church is gone, the two witnesses come on the seen and preach the gospel for 1260 days. The two witnesses will convert the 144,000 and the small remnant of Israel who finally believes in Jesus and flees to the wilderness so the Anti-Christ cannot harm them. The Anti-Christ kills the two witnesses and now the 144,000 along with the Angel in the sky are the only ones spreading the gospel in the last half of the tribulation. It is my opinion that no gentiles who refused the Mark of the beast will make it all the way through the Tribulation. At the end there will only be the 144,000 and small remnant of Israel who will repopulate the earth (in there mortal bodies) and the Church will reign with Christ over them for 1,000 years. I say this because in Revelation Chapter 9, the locust go out to harm everyone who does not have a seal of God on their foreheads. The only people who have the seal of God are the 144,000. I cannot believe our God would torment a believer in Jesus like this so my only conclusion is that they all must have been killed already and are in Heaven with Jesus.I also thought it was interesting when Jesus said in Luke 12:35-36 to be dressed for service and keep your lamps burning, as though you were waiting for your master to return from the wedding feast.
    When the Church is raptured, we will have our Bema Seat of Judgment and the Marriage supper of the Lamb during the 7 year Tribulation and then return to earth with Christ at his second coming. Those on the earth should be waiting for there Master to return from the marriage feast because he is returning after it with His Saints who were in Heaven……… The evidence is in the scriptures for a pre-trib rapture.

  23. I do not see how Matthew 24:29-31 /. 1st Thessalonians 4:16-18 , could be the same event. Why is the raising from the dead not mentioned in Matthew 24 ? The raising from the dead is mentioned in 1 st Thessalonians . Matthew 24 does not indicate taking us to heaven, 1 st Thessalonians does mention taking us to heaven, I could argue this further, Matthew 24/ 1st Thessalonians 4:16, are not the same. Why would I want to look for the son of perdition before looking for Jesus?

  24. I am looking for the blessed hope, I am looking for the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, Titus 2:13 . I'm not looking for the man of sin , son of perdition. So what's my crime for obeying the Bible , looking for His appearing? I'm not looking for the wrath of God or tribulation. So what's the problem?

  25. any one ever heard the whole counsel of God? why do you keep taking scripture here scripture there and fit in your story? It's one book it's supposed to read it like a book from front to back no vs no chapters… you can make anybody say anything you want them to say expecially when you take their words out of context

  26. Daniels 70th week was fulfilled by Chris in 34 ad, the temple mount means nothing anymore to Jesus. We are the living sacrfice, HE is our high priest, sacrifice and Sabbath rest. People looking for antichrist instead of Christ. Get your eyes off Israel and look at the condition of your heart!!

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