The PRE-TRIB Rapture Is!

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  1. Those who think we are going up post tribulation have a serious problem with the repopulation of the earth during the millennium. If the rapture is post tribulation, then there will be NO MORTALS left to go into the millennium and repopulate the earth. The Bible plainly says that when we are taken up in the rapture, we will be changed and become immortal.

  2. The problem with notion of the rapture : pre, post, whatever, is SIN. If you are a Christian are you sinless? Obviously not. You have accepted Jesus’ payment for your sins but you still have your sin nature and still sin daily in thought, word, and deed. You are made sinless only after Jesus’ second coming on earth when everything is made new. Therefore, you are still in your sins. Whether you believe in a soul or not, you, the physical you, or the spiritual you, are still sinful. Does God allow sin in Heaven? Absolutely not. When sin was found in Satan he was expelled to the earth. So sinful persons, whether bodily or spiritually would never be permitted in heaven.

  3. The pre mill pre trib rapture is the most desired interpretation of all prophetic systems & fits neatly into a OSAS or OBAS soteriology and a dispensational ecclesiology & eschatology.  Unfortunately it is one of the weakest Biblically.  I believe it is far better to question premillennialism itself .  I would consider a historicist view & look at other views of Scripture which are better Biblical theologies.   The immorality and utter cruelness & heartlessness of the life that Cyrus Scofield led & treated his wives and children with combined with his suspicious associations with Rothschild Zionism, Jesuitism and secret societies make his work look suspicious.   Darby also has some suspicious and strange associations and Margaret McDonald.  However I suppose Balaam prophesied concerning Jesus Christ.   Do you have to be moral to be correct?  Well you could argue ad hominin but to uncover the character of those that resurrected and popularized the pre trib system certainly does not strengthen any of their arguments.  I find the pre-mil pre trib system forced and lacking elegance as does any pre mill system.  I find the historicist view of prophesy worth taking a second look at because of its sheer elegance and consistent biblical vocabulary.  Preterists score a point or two but also lack elegance or consistency but it is worth taking a look at.

  4. 2Thess 2:1-4 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers,

    2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.

    3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

    4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

  5. Wheather pre, mid, or post. The second coming of Christ is coming. We are saved believeing the gospel, and trusting Christ as savior. No matter what view anybody holds, does not excuse serving the lord( not for salvation, but out of love). Jesus christ is coming back, the question is, will we be found faithful, or ashamed.

  6. The Apostle Paul and Scripture speak against pre-tribulation rapture.
    The reason so many people believe in something contrary to the Word of God is telling about how much people actually know the Words of God.
    When do the dead in Christ rise?
    "On the last day"
    When is the rapture?
    After.

    …"trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up (rapture)"

  7. I have had many debates about the rapture.
    There is not a single pre-trib pastor that can win on a single point of this.
    Because there is not a single scripture, not even 1, that supports a pre-trib rapture.
    I am TOR (teacher or remembrance) – the one who knows and understands Revelation.

  8. This guy is so full of CRAP. Don't fall for it people. He works for satan. NO PLACE does the bible say we go to heaven once Jesus returns. Pray you are here for the Tribulation. Pray to God you are LEFT BEHIND.

  9. Wrong
    2Thessalonians 2 we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
    How do you explain this verse? The antichrist isn't revealed til he sitteth in the temple of God which happens in the middle of the trib. So this proves the catching away isn't until At least this point

  10. I feel bad for all of these people with ugly spirits attacking the pre-trib position. All you have to do is pray for discernment, and the Lord will give it to you, if you are actually saved of course.

  11. I for one believe that the pretrib is scriptural. It makes sense if you read the scripture with a clear and uncluttered mind. There is no agenda behind it. I am awaiting the rapture and I am going home, leaving this world behind. So will everyone else who believes and loves Christ.

  12. all I know is that theres not one verse saying when, not one. and only God himself knows so therefore nobody can pin it down when and then its only assumption and guessing. but it will happen, it just when.

  13. Liars. Anyone that trusted in the sept 23 rapture is now officially a false prophet. You have lied in the name of the father and the son and in many cases lied about the holy spirit having given you confirmations and speaking to you. When Jesus said false prophets would come he was not kidding. Everybody watch out for these liars, their lying will only get worse and worse. Such is the case with blue heaven, Steve fletcher and watchman for that great day, liars all of them. Scott Clarke has switched his rapture date to today the 24th, showing what a scumbag he really is. Beware of these people they are wolves.

  14. The Bema Seat Judgment or Judgment Seat of Christ is the next prophetic event that happens when all of the true believers in Christ past and present, are transported and translated into the Kingdom of God and Heaven, and each one of us will stand in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and all of our thoughts, emotions, words, and actions will be brought forth and everything that was not for the advancement of the Kingdom of Christ Jesus and everything that was not for His Glory, and everything that was not pure and true, will be burnt like wood, hay, and stubble, and whatever is left, all of those thoughts, emotions, words, and actions, that glorified our Lord God, King and Savior; Jesus Christ, will be tried in the fire and all impurities will be removed, and what is left will be like gold, silver, and precious stones.
    This will be the removing of sins from our eternal spiritual bodies, so that we may be able to finally stand in the presence of our Heavenly Father through our relationship restoration through Jesus Christ.
    This will be followed by the Marriage of the Lamb, when the Church; the Bride and body of Christ, will be united with Jesus; the Bridegroom and Head of the Eternal Heavenly Body of Christ, as was the original plan of our Heavenly Father and Lord God Jesus Christ.
    Peace and Maranatha.

  15. It's best to look in the bible and read what it says , rather than listen to man .And why do some preachers say there is a pre trib and some say there is not ? Are they reading from 2 different bibles ? Or do they read it differently? I am confused .

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