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Are Pro-Life Organizations Secretly Protecting Abortion? | Guest: Abby Johnson | Ep 1187

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In today’s episode, we’re discussing the Trump administration’s insistence on remaining on the wrong side of the abortion debate with its defense of allowing the abortion pill to be accessible online and via mail. We go over the DOJ’s arguments in light of a recent study that showed the abortion pill is far more deadly than the FDA previously advertised. We also discuss a recent undercover investigation by Live Action that showed Planned Parenthood’s willingness to give “cross-sex hormones” to minors without parental consent. Later, we sit down with Abby Johnson to talk about the recent bill in Texas that would have criminalized abortion … had pro-life groups not stopped it in its tracks.

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00:00 Introduction
02:06 Trump admin defending abortion pill access
05:47 Abortion pill more dangerous than FDA claims
13:38 Planned Parenthood giving “cross-sex hormones” to minors
17:27 Abby Johnson interview

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  1. @Mackieleeee.1 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 2:51 pm

    Women can be such hypocrites….anyone else who murders someone else is punished but somehow women can kill their babies with NO consequence? AT ALL? Really? That’s not consistent ans abortion will never ever be illegal if the logic concerning their beliefs isn’t consistent. At least abolitionists are consistent and actually treat and see babies as humans and recognize their murder should be treated as such. Why do pro-lifers all of a sudden say “punish women” what about the murdered babies??? It’s just inconsistent

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  2. @annacollins6505 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 2:09 pm

    Thank you for this interview Allie! Abby made many great points that people need to consider as we fight to abolish abortion.

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  3. @monsemayorga8812 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 2:03 pm

    Abby Johnson looks so different

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  4. @holyisthelord823 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 2:02 pm

    Excellent point Abbey, double homicide…but women can choose to murder her baby.

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  5. @suzydavis1504 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 12:44 pm

    This should not come as a surprise. JD Vance said during the campaign that he and Trump were in favor of the abortion pill. #uniparty

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  6. @astar8626 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 12:19 pm

    Has anyone actually taken this thought experiment to fruition?! Would either of the women on this show today REALLY want any woman they know and/or love to be at risk of losing any aspect of their freedoms due to finding themselves in a situation of feeling the real need to choose to terminate a pregnancy, as horrific of an experience and act as that is?! Have you women considered, as the God you profess to be speaking “for” IS able to do, EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE motivation for choosing to terminate a pregnancy? Have you, as the Most High is able, put yourself in the “shoes” of every woman since the beginning of time who has chosen to terminate a pregnancy, and decided that a woman who does so should be at risk of being prosecuted for MURDER? Do you ladies REALLY think being permitted to terminate a pregnancy without legal penalty for murder is really the same as going next door and killing your neighbor who is “getting on your nerves”? Is that what the intelligence of the Holy Spirit comes to when meditating on the very real issue of abortion on earth at this time? Have any of these pro-life groups lobbied for VERY REAL reproductive education IN SCHOOLS?!?! WHO is lobbying to have children nearing reproductive age EDUCATED on the very real HAZARDS of premarital and extramarital sexual behavior? And who is lobbying to insure that young pregnant women who truly don’t have the resources to care for themselves during pregnancy and herself and baby after the birth? These resources need to be available and known. I am pretty sure that planned parenthood, at large, and its representatives, is/are NOT luring and pressuring women in to “killing their babies,” and would be just as willing to share information on organizations with resources to help her pay her rent and bills while unable to work due to constant “morning sickness,” for one thing. The solutions might be more “simple,” but take more “boots on the ground” than many “pro-lifers” think. As for the callousness spoken to, that can be “educated against,” as well, early on. What pro-life organizations are LOBBYING to have respect for life taught in schools?

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  7. @DavidOmaha1 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 12:15 pm

    Hi Allie,
    Are you familiar with Dr. Joanna Howe from Australia? She has been doing important Pro Life work, and just posted a video about a paper written by an abortionist that has dodgy work.

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  8. @mkzamel says:
    May 13, 2025 at 12:12 pm

    Abby Johnson had two abortion? Now she wants to punish women?

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  9. @mooreoftammie says:
    May 13, 2025 at 11:57 am

    Equal protection and equal justice. That demands prosecution of mothers who either have an abortionist murder their child or they themselves take a pill. Neither Kristin Hawkins nor Lila Rose are for prosecuting mothers. That is not equal protection nor is it just in any way. Why should women have special rights to murder another group of human beings?
    The one thing I never thought about until listening to T. Russell Hunter with Abolitionists Rising is how women are told they are victims too. (Exactly what the pro-life groups say.) If they view themselves as victims, they will think they have nothing to repent of and ask God’s forgiveness for. Then they will have to stand before God one day with the blood of their children on their hands. That horrifies me. Also it is heartbreaking reading the comments of regretful post-abortive women who say if only it would have been against the law they would never have went through with it. 😢 This is what angers me at pro life groups. Their incrementalism keeps delaying justice and keeps fueling what God sees as an abomination.

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  10. @kaylan2083 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 11:45 am

    Allie would love to see you react to the therapist who made a video "debunking" your new book. Please would love to hear your take on it. The channel is Mickey Atkins and she posted the video a few days ago. It has 26k views.

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  11. @haleeburch says:
    May 13, 2025 at 11:33 am

    So when did Abby switch sides? I thought she was anti abolitionism and equal protection alongside Kristian Hawkins and Lila Rose?

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  12. @robynhouse8166 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 10:22 am

    The fog is lifting and the pro-life movement is shifting

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  13. @indigos290 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 10:10 am

    Abby Johnson woke up. My goodness. Is she finally Abolitionist? ✊🏿

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  14. @stuartist says:
    May 13, 2025 at 9:12 am

    Tbh, I'm glad the pill is more dangerous for the mother. It will better help them understand the gravity of what they're doing.

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  15. @NormanVissuturnpermitted says:
    May 13, 2025 at 8:12 am

    That you all did not understand that Trump would betray you – especially when it comes to moral issues and not just gaining wealth and power- remains one of the great mysteries of my life.

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  16. @AM-sk1tv says:
    May 13, 2025 at 8:05 am

    Now that Im pregnant I cannot imagine how people have abortions. Pregnancy is all encompasing…it effects your sleep/dreams and every cell in your body. I feel like a different person. A woman doing anything to intentionally harm her baby in the womb is demonic.

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  17. @kristinm7502 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 8:04 am

    I think one problem with criminalizing abortion is that miscarriage is statistically so common that it could be nearly impossible to determine in a court of law whether a mother invoked an abortion or whether she had a natural miscarriage.

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  18. @RickyKearnsJr says:
    May 13, 2025 at 8:04 am

    My realization as of late is that if you dont believe in the abolition of abortion, at least in a smashmouth form, then i wont even consider supporting or voting for you.
    Any existing voting record should portray this also. If no voting record, id want to see if you donate to any organizations that believe in abolition.
    It should be a minimum requirement for all voting Christians.

    Love Abby Johnson, glad she is based on the abortion issue. Pro-Lifers are waking up

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  19. @RickyKearnsJr says:
    May 13, 2025 at 7:50 am

    Yeah we knew this about Trump. Trump has always been pro-choice, policy and legislative wise. He even has been vocal about it. "My administration will be great for reproductive rights" and "6 weeks is too early". He believes abortion is okay up to 15 weeks. Christians just choose to ignore it because Trump is entertaining and "owns the libs".
    Nah the dude is a socialist. He just looks better next to a communist.

    American Christians are very "out of sight out of mind" about alot of issues. Its terrible we have become compromising on a noncompromise issue like child murder.

    I just find myself saying every day that we couldve had DeSantis.

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  20. @cleverhandle22 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 7:50 am

    Have on Russell from Abolitionists Rising!

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  21. @BK-im8lr says:
    May 13, 2025 at 7:46 am

    Christian’s need to repent of pro life and turn to abolitionism.

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  22. @bridgettem0619 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 7:42 am

    You know what's stupid- abortion is touted as "healthcare"….and is covered by taxpayer dollars, but I have state insurance and have to pay all my dental and vision out of pocket. Because apparently being able to see and have good oral health isnt Healthcare, but killing babies is.

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  23. @shannonbalmes3610 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 7:08 am

    Yes. From the 80s until now. They are more evil than Planned Unparenthood

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  24. @megansmall4064 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 7:07 am

    Praying for more babies in 2025? Well God has answered! I know 7 families in my immediate circle who are due this year!!! Praise God!!!

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  25. @compulsivehonesty says:
    May 13, 2025 at 6:57 am

    I had 5 abortions between 2012 and 2019. You would think I had information online. I did research online!! Everything on Google told me it was not a baby, it was not murder, and that the Bible allowed for abortion. Just wanted to push back on that assumption that women today are more knowledgeable than in the past. I was never told the truth until 2022 when rvw was overturned and people were talking about it more. And I am college educated! I'm a mother! I felt pro lifers were just trying to stop people from fornication, especially because they promoted EXCEPTIONS.. if it was really murder there wouldn't be exceptions.

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  26. @AGPerry-go3xk says:
    May 13, 2025 at 6:38 am

    I'm glad that I saw multiple ob's for my second baby cuz the first one made me absolutely terrified of having a uterine rupture. And basically made it seem impossible. Where is the other doctors I saw said that it was a viable option so I ended up having a v-back thank God!

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  27. @forallofme4441 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 6:33 am

    No one cares about this long winded nonsense about abortion pills being bad for women who are m*rdering their babies. This is why women shouldn't be in any movements – they don't have any clarity on moral issues.

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  29. @mikestjean8993 says:
    May 13, 2025 at 6:13 am

    Hi Allie, please interview Pastor Jeff Durbin from Apologia Church in AZ.

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