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What are your thoughts on Pre-Trib Rapture vs Mid-Trib or Post-Trib?

What are your thoughts on Pre-Trib Rapture vs Mid-Trib or Post-Trib?


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28 COMMENTS

Cookies Tv - posted on August 30, 2019 12:31 pm

How about telling me how Jewish people became white when they are middle eastern

Crang Creekin - posted on August 30, 2019 10:47 pm

Get us past 2 Thessalonians 2 Chapter and not being hoodwinked by the man of lawlessness and his spectacular entry. Then the gathering will take place. This we do know. Keep it simple preacher… and continue your excellent teaching. Creekin.

Richard Manning - posted on September 3, 2019 4:04 am

I have yet to get an answer from anyone who believes post trib rapture. My question is this. If Christ waits for His second coming to take all His saints who have died and are still here at the end of the tribulation with Him and all the rest He sends to eternal punishment, (Matthew 25:46), if that is the case, then who is left to go into the millennial kingdom?

Marcelo Guzman - posted on September 3, 2019 9:25 am

For everyone on this blog that's still arguing for pretrib. Please look up that Webster's definition of tribulation"the testing of ones faith" "we r not appointed unto wrath" but we certainly will be tested n going thru the tribulation. The last days is certainly devided into two categories. A tribulation period(wether it's 3.5 or 7 years) and the last part is God's wrath( the day of the Lord) . Now god only promised to leave us out of his wrath not tribulation. And for all pretrib out there that use Noah or Lot to justify pretrib. Actually Noah n his family went thru the testing of their faith(tribulation) . while the rest of society was marrying n drinking n committing abominable sins, Noah n his family did not but was living in that tribulation. They kept themselves holy for God during the tribulation. Now once God decided to put his wrath on earth by flooding it he saved Noah n his family by placing them in the ark thus removing them from his wrath. The same goes for Lot n his family. Lot was in tribulation living in Soddom n Ggomorrah but stayed holy n proved his faith. Then he was removed prior to the God's wrath on Soddom n Ghomorrah

Stephen Foster - posted on September 5, 2019 9:40 am

Yeshua said, As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be , at the coming of the Son of Man. 8 souls were saved from the food (this happens before the Flood, not in the middle, not after it’s over).

Harold Hart - posted on September 5, 2019 10:47 am

NOV 16, 2020, PEACE TREATY, RAPTURE AND ABOMINATION AT PASSOVER APRIL 29, 2024, 2ND COMING = YOM KIPPUR = October 11, 2027

Donna Wheeler - posted on September 12, 2019 10:52 pm

Will we be here during the mark of the beast?

Neil Wani - posted on September 13, 2019 1:07 pm

These timings will be proven at the pretrib rapture. They cannot be proven wrong and the timings prove every other interpretation wrong.

These are the timings

pretrib rapture – our gathering – No man knows the day or the hour Restrainer taken away – Rev 4 1 – Luke 21 29-36 and Matthew 24 32-51 and Mark 13 28-36 and Matthew 25 1-13. The bridegroom is going to the wedding. The righteous are taken at the sound of the trumpet. There is no eternal judgment. The ones left behind ask for the door to be opened for them also. The ones left behind are judged with the hypocrites. No man knows the watch. No man knows if it will be at evening time or the midnight watch or when the rooster crows or at dawn Mark 13 35.

a few short wars

10 kingdoms take complete control of the world from the sea of humanity Rev 13 1. This kingdom has 10 crowns on 10 horns.

Start of Daniel's 70th week for 2520 days.

Some time in the first half a wicked man appears and subdues 3 of the 10 kingdoms (Daniel 7 23-24 and Rev 12 3). This kingdom will have 7 crowns on 7 heads. He confirms a 7 year covenant that was in place.

seals 1-4 some time in the 1st half – beginning of sorrows

a few days or week before midtrib the 2 witnesses appear

mid-trib Abomination of desolation – seal 5 opened – antichrist revealed – start of Daniel 7 25 and Rev 13 5-7 – Day 1261 of 2520 day tribulation. The antichrist will have authority over saints from all nations for 42 months on this day Rev 13 5-7. The nation of Israel will be hid in the wilderness for 1260 days starting on this day Rev 12 14. The gentiles will trample Jerusalem for 42 months starting on this day Rev 11 2.

seal 6 some unknown time in middle of 2nd half – start of the Day of the Lord judgments on the wicked as birth pangs and the wicked will not escape – every island and mountain moved- the elect sealed on their foreheads

seal 7 – trumpet judgments start

trumpet judgments 1-4 effects 1/3 of the world

trumpet 5 – 5 months scorpions – 1st woe

trumpet 6 – 1/3 of mankind killed – 2 witnesses resurrected – 2nd woe has passed, the third woe cometh quickly

close to 2nd coming (days before the 7th trumpet) – city of Babylon destroyed – 144,000 translated to heaven alive (the elect) proclamation of the 3 angels in Rev 14 and then the end will come

trumpet 7 – THIS IS THE DAY THE LORD IS REVEALED TO THE WORLD. THE DAY THE LORD IS REVEALED IS THE DAY ALL THE WICKED ARE DESTROYED – Day 2520 – End of Daniel's 70th week – Day of the Lord when the sun, moon darkened (Joel 3 15) – 2nd Coming (the hour will not be known but the watch will be at evening time in Israel) – Old Testament saints resurrected along with the wicked that pierced the Lord Daniel 12 1-7 – It is announced in heaven that the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of the Lord and of his Christ – the powers of heaven are shaken. the antichrist chooses 10 kings to oppose the 2nd coming. Matthew 24 31, Rev 1 7, Rev 11 15. On this day, Seven Bowls on the same day of the second coming – The wicked are taken (Matt 13 41) Angels gather His Elect from all nations – 100% of the world effected – every island and mountain disappear and the followers of Babylon the wicked religion worldwide destroyed – living waters flow from Jerusalem and the Lord is king over all the Earth Zech 14 6-9 – the next day starts the millennium after Daniel 9 24 occurs – In the book of Revelation this day is given in Rev 10 7 and Rev 11 15 and Rev 14 14 and Rev 19 11. The wicked are taken. The bridegroom is coming from the wedding. There is eternal destruction at this event. The ones taken are judged with unbelievers. The watch will be at eveing time in Israel Zech 14 7. The date will be known 2520 days before the event.

Cindy Murphy - posted on September 14, 2019 3:54 pm

Rev 3:7-13 Especially vs 10
Because you did obey my message about persevering, I will keep you from the time of trial coming upon the whole world to put the people living on earth to the test.

Piping Deacon - posted on September 14, 2019 6:08 pm

I am a baptist deacon. I was raised in the Episcopal church and was taught pre trib rapture. Then I switched to a baptist church and was taught pre trib rapture. About two years ago I checked it out…really studied it and started thinking this pre trib rapture may be incorrect. I do not BELEIVE Christian's are seperate from Jews we are grafted in to. I am not POSITIVE but when anyone asks me I say I do not beleive there is some pre trib rapture. I. THINK we are all going through and to together. Am I sure ? No. I AM sure all saved will be with our Savior in the end. I DO say to just be prepared and ready for anything and to do that we MUST keep our noses in the bible and stay close to each other and Christ. I will not argue and of these thoughts of pre, half way or post all I will say is. BE READY AND BE IN CONSTANT PRAYER AND IN THE WILL OF GOD. I thank you for posting this and I love all my brothers and sisters in Christ ! (Jew, christian or whatever as long as you follow Christ)

Terry Wendt - Nashville, Tennessee - posted on September 15, 2019 5:21 pm

Better study some more so you don't TELL LIES about what SCRIPTURE SAYS!!

Unknown Preacher - posted on September 19, 2019 7:06 pm

There is therefore NOW no CONDEMNATION to those who are in Christ Jesus. Jesus also said "I will come at a time when you think not". Just something for thought

Paul Cook - posted on September 20, 2019 1:28 am

its a pre wrath resurrection called first resurrection 7 trump few be that find it
1290 days

Tomcloud - posted on September 20, 2019 5:26 pm

John MacArthur was saying that he believed Petrib is supported by the absence of the church in revelation after chapter 3. He says this implies that we aren't there. My first thoughts on that are that a) the first 3 chapters are speaking to present, while the rest is talking to future,. And b) the first 3 chapters are pretty direct while the rest is very symbolic.

I just want to know if anyone sees the church within the symbolic language of revelation chapters 4-19. How about the woman in labor maybe, or her children?

Tomcloud - posted on September 20, 2019 5:56 pm

Also, I would like to know if anyone has considered the 7000 that die in the earthquake at the same time that the two witnesses die to be very strong men of God who maybe die to help deliver the unbelieving Jews. It just makes sense to me. They seem as though they are dieing the same way as the two witnesses and for the same reason. To be like Christ. It says that many will see them die and give glory to God. I am thinking maybe they are part of the 144000 but a special group. Just some theories please feel free to edify me on this. Blessings.

Real[ity] - posted on September 21, 2019 12:10 pm

Good thing ones belief regarding the timing of the rapture is not dependent on ones salvation, belief on Yashua is. That being said, how many believes will fall away when the pre-trib rapture does not happen? That’s my concern with the pre tribe rapture false doctrine

PacificNorthWest Bear - posted on September 22, 2019 12:06 am

Matthew 24:29-31 (KJV) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Montana4us - posted on September 22, 2019 4:04 am

THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE IS ANOTHER ONE OF SATAN'S GREAT END-TIME DECEPTIONS THAT CHRISTIANS ARE FALLING FOR.  THOSE WHO HAVEN'T DONE A REAL IN-DEPTH STUDY INTO THIS ARE GOING TO BE CAUGHT OFF-GUARD WHEN THEY WAKE UP ONE DAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRIBULATION AND END UP HAVING THEIR HEADS CUT OFF BY THE COMING MUSLIM "ANTI-CHRIST" AND HIS HENCHMEN, AND THE COMING GREAT RELIGIOUS LEADER KNOWN AS THE "FALSE PROPHET".  WHEN PREACHERS PREACH THIS FALSE TEACHING AND CHRISTIANS SIT BACK AND BELIEVE "WE AIN'T GONNA BE HERE SO NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT" ARE VERY DELUSIONED BY SATAN THE DEVIL.  ONE THING ABOUT IT…….THE PREACHERS EVERYWHERE TEACHING THIS SURE CAN KEEP THEIR BIG INCOMES ROLLING IN AS LONG AS THEY ARE TEACHING ALL OF THIS "FEEL GOOD" CRAP TO THEIR CONGREGATIONS. WHEN PEOPLE SAY TO US…..BUT THE LORD SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DESTINED FOR HIS WRATH IN THE END-TIMES.  TRUE!  BUT WHAT HE DIDN'T SAY THAT MOST PEOPLE MISS IS THAT HE DIDN'T MENTION THAT "WE WILL BE DESTINED FOR SATAN'S WRATCH" UPON ALL BELIEVERS DURING THOSE YEARS.  CHECK OUT REVELATION 20:4THESE ARE THE MARTYRS OF THE TRIBULATION YEARS WHO WILL SHARE IN THE JOYS OF THE COMING 1,000 YEAR MLLENNIAL KINGDOM.  KALISPELL, MT.  9/21/19

K. M. Virginia - posted on September 23, 2019 3:49 am

None of us believe we are separate from the Jews because they are the root. So, I don't get why you are accusing Christians of such a thing. I wanted to find out why you believe that there is no rapture, but you really didn't impress upon me why you don't believe it. Maybe, instead of assuming you understand where these Christians get their rapture from, see if you can listen to a scholar that talks about it. They have much more evidence than what you have shown people that they have.

Tata Sanchez - posted on September 23, 2019 3:59 am

If the rapture of the Church will not happen on preTribulation, all pretrib believers will question & blame God because they wanted to scape the trials during the tribulations, they wish for an easy salvation, they wanted their bodies unhampered free from lashes and thorns but remember, Gold will be tested by fire and our faith will be measured during the tribulations.

NOTE:

IF THE RAPTURE HAPPEN BEFORE PRETRIBULATIONS WELL AND GOOD BUT, IF IT HAPPENS AFTER THE TRIBULATIONS, ALL PRETRIBERS ARE IN DANGER MANY OF THEM WILL NOT ENDURE AND TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST.

Matthew 24:12-13
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Rhooth Lutz - posted on September 23, 2019 4:19 am

You can't say when the rapture happens period. If jesus doesn't know and the angles you won't

Hart - posted on September 23, 2019 8:59 pm

I had been going back and forth in my mind over this whole pre trib thing. Mostly I thought that there would be no pre trib rapture because scripture does not mention one. Then I saw a video that seemed pretty convincing but even still now that I think about it they had to jump through many hoops and make crazy connections to support it. Now I am feeling what this man said is correct. It will happen just the way the bible says it will happen. The one thing I did get from this video is that I did not know it will happen during the last trump on the feast of trumpets. Good to know, Just a matter of what year.

Davon Smith - posted on September 24, 2019 5:13 am

Doesn't matter what I or anyone thinks. What does the bible record?

Davon Smith - posted on September 24, 2019 5:16 am

Enoch was not taken to The Heaven. That would contradict when Christ said " No man has ever ascended to Heaven, but He who came from heaven". Case closed

Paul Cook - posted on September 26, 2019 11:01 pm

we are in last days

Dianna Rodriguez - posted on September 27, 2019 3:35 am

Maranatha….Harpazo!!!

Breambo - posted on September 27, 2019 9:19 am

The rapture is heresy. Not mentioned anywhere in Bible. So is the millennium reign of Christ on Earth.

Pierre Ferguson - posted on September 27, 2019 4:55 pm

When Jesus Christ returns to earth again, As it is written in Acts 1:9-11, His elect will be caught up in the clouds to meet Him in the air, As it is written in Matthew 24:23-31; Mark 13:21-27 = Luke 21:25-28; 1 Corinthians 15:51-51-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, And we shall reign w/ Jesus Christ on the earth (NOT heaven) from the old city of Jerusalem, Israel, for a thousand years, As it is written in Revelation 19; Zechariah 14; Revelation 20-22 from a Truthful Exegesis. Amen. #Hermeneutics

Matthew 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation [Revelation 2:9; -10,22; Revelation 7:9-14] of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of [disorder] confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.


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