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Why Do I Believe in a Pre-Trib Rapture?

Why Do I Believe in a Pre-Trib Rapture?


Why do I count on a Pre-TribRapture? Explore 10 factors with Nathan Jones on this episode of The Inbox! COMPLY WITH United States! Website: http://christinprophecy.org. Blog: http://christinprophecyblog.org. Resources: https://bibleprophecyresources.com. Podcasts: http://christinprophecy.org/podcasts/. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lamblionministries/. Twitter: https://twitter.com/christnprophecy. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christinprophecy/. Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/proclaimJesus. RECAP. WhyDo I Believe in a Pre-TribRapture? To obtain even more responses for completion times, sign up for this network, and also please see us at http://christinprophecy.org/.
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47 COMMENTS

GoodFruitForGod - posted on November 5, 2018 8:50 pm

The rapture is a doctrine of devils, if you actually research the scriptures of they actually mean your see that there is a rapture of the few remaining alive yes true but at the VERY END of the world when the Lord returns to judge the world. Nobody is getting a free pass. The antichrist and a great falling away must first come before the end cometh. What is the great falling away, it is this pretrib rapture teaching! People will be expecting Jesus but will get the messiah, the antichrist. My suggestion is stop listening to preachers online or in churches for everywhere is satans ministers. Get in your king james bible and let God teach you for just as scripture teachers us: the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you and ye need not that any man teach you. I read the word and when I need help understanding I search bible hub commentaries from the great theologians of the past who I know are not satans ministers, who teach what is true of scripture, not teachings who tickle those with itchings ears looking for an easy way to heaven

lerinnenatalia - posted on November 5, 2018 10:49 pm

Use any bible translation you are most comfortable with, they say the same thing at Revelation 7:14-17 "So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. That is why they are before the throne of God, and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them.”
The great tribulation is a time of test for us. Its our opportunity to prove we are worthy of being citizens in God's Kingdom. There is no room for bystanders who think simply going to church will save them. This time will be scary but we can endure and be strong. Zephania 2:3 tells us to seek righteousness and seek peace, and perhaps we will survive the day of the lords anger. The thought of being taken right before the test would makes Jesus words pointless to stay awake and keep on the watch. We do not know the day the master is coming. If we endure faithfully to the end, we can be among those who come out of the great tribulation.

North Storm - posted on November 6, 2018 5:17 pm

Research your Bible daily, always Pray, ask the Lord to open up his Word to you, before you start….
Just like the Lord open up there eyes for the Jewish people, who search for Jesus…
….Find out for Yourself…
This HOLY BOOK is Alive

Nityush Raul - posted on November 15, 2018 8:54 am

You should have given the reference verses of christ return!!

Psypher Veritas - posted on November 16, 2018 4:51 am

@6:25 you say the wrath of God last 7 years and that God's church is promised not to have to endure. Can you provide a verse for that?

Randy Roth - posted on December 1, 2018 11:20 pm

He starts within the first minute lying to us…. He tells us that the bible "makes it clear" then he states a doctrine of man. The Word of God informs us that at the 'resurrection of the dead" (rapture a conjured word to focus on the living), that the dead dudes will get their physical bodies back raised from the dead….Cor. 15:42-54 Paul informs us that they do not go to Heaven…vs. 50. Why would they… they are here to rule and reign with Christ for 1000 years. They could not do that still absent from the physical body… 2 Cor.5:8, but need their physical body back to rule and reign on a physical Earth. Those who are alive and REMAIN … remain on Earth where Jesus has now come to rule and reign. They are changed from mortal to immortal… this is the opposite of Adam who by sin was changed from immortal to mortal…see Rom5. Jesus modeled His return in Acts 1:9-14. He will return in "like manner" or "in the same way" that He left. He left the Mount of Olives to the sky, and the to Heaven…. He will return in the same way… not a u-turn back to heaven , but to the Mount of Olives with all of His saints… Zech 14:4,5

Randy Roth - posted on December 1, 2018 11:29 pm

He lies to us again within a minute and half, concerning Daniel. He tells us that according to Daniel there is a 7 year time period known as the Tribulation. That is false, Daniel Never mentions the 'tribulation". Rather Daniel informs us that the sacrifices and offerings will end in the middle of a 7 year time period. They have indeed been ended for nearly 2000 years. They ended in the middle of a 7 year war known as the Roman-Jewish War or Jewish Uprising which started in 66 AD and ended with the fall of Masada in 73 AD in the middle of that 7 years the temple was destroyed and the Sacrifices and offerings ended. This man does not quote the Word of God, but the private interpretation of Daniel's 70th week created by a single individual…1 Peter 1;20. That private interpretation was invented in the time when men still used the same method of transportation that was used by Daniel. The book of Daniel was sealed up until the time of the end when transportation is more than horseback and there is internet for knowledge to increase.

Bill Rundell - posted on December 4, 2018 3:44 pm

I believe in Pre Trip, very strongly.
But in Matthew 24, is for the Jew's future. They had no knowledge of being CAUGHT-UP.
Warning to flee into Judea and travel not to be on the Sabbath, is not for the Church.
The beginning of the church age began at Pentecost in the upper room.

petsaonline - posted on December 26, 2018 8:22 pm

It's very interesting, the person claims that he thoughtfully thought it through and then go on and cite all the same old arguments from the pre trib camp. Even the wording is all same. Many conclusions are built on assumptions, no solid evidence just wishful thinking.

James Johnson - posted on January 3, 2019 12:41 am

Andrew Womack is also Post Trib

Weston Minshull - posted on January 17, 2019 5:07 pm

2:46 You're taking that verse out of context, yes it does say that we won't know the DAY or HOUR, not year or month. In the verses preceding the one that you quoted he says that AFTER you see these things you know that it is near. The greek word used for "it" is "esti" which means (he, she, or it) is. So we will know generally what time he is coming, just not the day or hour, that is why we must be ready.

Steve Allen - posted on January 29, 2019 10:25 am

I agree with this video there's something I want to note. As far as be disbelief in a pre- trib rapture not being a Salvation issue. I would like to say that for some it become one. And I say that relatively speaking to are they going to be having the oil as with the five wise virgins. And as we may have seen how that some scoff belittle are arrogant prideful boastful about their pre-trib View. Which is bearing bad fruit I'm not saying I'm the judge but as far as fruit goes many have left a bad taste in my mouth. Also have notice that some have prophesied from that point of view and in many circumstances I believe they have falsely prophesied

Edward Russell - posted on February 6, 2019 1:11 am

Great video, great points. The pre tribulation rapture is scriptural and is backed by the word of God.

Kenneth MacLeod - posted on February 13, 2019 1:32 pm

Question for the rapture believing Christians. Where is Paradise? Why are some people there with Jesus already if the rapture hasn't happened yet?

tweed187187 - posted on February 16, 2019 1:08 am

I just don't understand why people insist on being here during the tribulation like it's going to be a party or something. If you don't believe in the Rapture be careful what you wish for. God says he will gather up his bride the church. Do you think God would put his bride through the tribulation? There are many references of the rapture in the bible. 1 Corinthians @-53 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 1 Thessalonians @-18 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.Luke @-37 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.” 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked. He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”

zelda66661 howard - posted on February 24, 2019 6:31 am

Thank you for the Vid, but not convinced. Too vague on scripture, sharing opinion but not backed up appropriately imho. Keep sharing God's word, remember many love God yet still disagree on his instruction.

Vitor Herold - posted on March 4, 2019 6:06 pm

All of the points are vague, and wrong. Its circular logic, because the arguments you used, were the arguments that had to been proven instead, since in nowhere in this verses you said there is an explicit mention of a rapture before the tribulation. Actually, quite the opposite. 2 Tess. is a NIGHTMARE for pre-trib.

The only verse it could be used is in revelation 3, but the is easy to debunk. Philadelphia church is not TEMPTED, tempted to BELIEVE on the lie, or the Great Deception… it is related to the apostasy and the manifestation of the antichrist. The church of Philadelphia, representing the honest christians, is not tempted, because it cannot!

Vitor Herold - posted on March 4, 2019 6:07 pm

I don't want a fight, but its very easy to debunk each of the reasons in here… none of them are explicit! But implicit. That itself is already a BIG problem

Zell dincht - posted on March 8, 2019 9:38 pm

It's a lie. The Bible says nothing about keeping us from tribulation. It does talk about us going thru tribulation. Also it is told the Lord returns immediatly after the tribulation. For his elect. That's us.

John Harrington - posted on March 9, 2019 3:18 pm

Christ in Prophecy,Thank you brother!I'm watching this video about 6 mos. late,It's too bad rapture deniers always quote Matt: 24 .All those "elect" from the 4 winds of heaven are survivors of the Great Tribulation,not the Body of Christ! Failure to rightly divide the word of truth is the real problem for them( God bless em') May they all study the letters of Paul to show themselves approved unto God,workmen that need not to be ashamed!Blessings,John ??

Jesse Baldwin - posted on March 13, 2019 5:41 am

Time and again the Lord has saved his remnant from his judgement. The Bible is full of these examples. Thank you Nathan for reminding everyone of this. It's all so obvious to those of us who read the Word and believe it.

I choose Christ forever - posted on March 29, 2019 7:31 am

Please don't put music in your videos. It's loud, sometimes louder then you talking. It's also distracting from your lesson.
Great video. Thanks for teaching.

Believed Gaming - posted on April 19, 2019 12:40 pm

You made some good points, do you think the Gods people and the saints described in revelations 13 are the people of the church or the isreal people.

Maria Lopez - posted on April 19, 2019 11:35 pm

Awesome. Finally a study separating The Rapture and The 2nd Coming. Great job!

Hilux244 - posted on May 1, 2019 1:30 am

i think i am a foolish virgin, but i promise you i dont want to be

Sports Life - posted on May 3, 2019 11:42 pm

Well done! Thank you

amywilleatyourface - posted on May 4, 2019 5:58 pm

The great tribulation is not Gods judgment on the world. It’s the preface to it. It’s the state of the world immediately before Christ’s return. The unfolding of the scroll and breaking the seal is an unfolding of time only God knows and has given His Son the power. See Rev 6:10 the cry of the martyrs under the 5th seal. “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” This tells us that God has not yet begun His judgment. the 6th seal is Christ’s return and gathering of the church (v17) then the multitude 7th seal silence in heaven.
Trumpets and bowls are Gods Judgment and wrath poured out, where Gods people will be in heaven.. I believe in a post tribulation but pre-judgment rapture. It makes more sense in scripture and in my mind.. but as you said. It’s an opinion that doesn’t have all that much bearing on anything. The only thing I can think of is that if pre-trib Christians are expecting to be raptured, they may be deceived when the antichrist takes the stage.

Mike65809 - posted on May 8, 2019 11:22 am

Brother, there is no Pre-trib rapture in context in any passage. Think about Matt. 24. Is it there in context? No. He does not talk about two separate comings. To see that is to bring ideas to the text from someplace else (eisegesis). Is it there in 1 Thess. 4 in context? The trib is not mentioned in the passage. 1 Thess. 5 says we are not destined for wrath, but why can't that be the wrath the wicked will experience when Jesus comes – as is seen in 1T hess. 5:1-2? In context, this is the wrath Paul is speaking about. Nor is it found in 1 Cor. 15, nor in 2 Thess. ch. 1 and 2. Context is key and always consider if you are bringing ideas to the text from someplace else.

Mike65809 - posted on May 8, 2019 12:56 pm

The 2nd coming is not proceeded by exactly 7 years of tribulation, nor exactly 3 1/2 years. It comes "after the Tribulation of those days…" It does not say how long after the tribulation. It could be a long time, which is why the church falls asleep! The wrath we are promised not to endure is seen in context of where Paul speaks in ch. 5. That very chapter, verses 1-2 explains it. Paul also explains more about it in 2 Thess. 1:6-8. Here you see the church being rescued at Christ's return as He punishes the wicked. Context is key to understanding any passage. I'm sure you know this.

Elijah Treman - posted on May 10, 2019 6:57 am

Wheres the rapture for Christians in China, middle east, and across the world being tortured and killed and entire churches burned to the ground in China 2018. Pre trib is a American thing that causes so many to not get ready which is one of several reasons many will fall from the faith including being deceived. We are not above our master. The rapture cant happen at any moment, there are some things that hasn't happened yet like all nations hating believers, and the preaching of the gospel in the whole world then the end will come.

thetruthimpart - posted on May 10, 2019 10:43 pm

Pretrib rapture is a false teaching and all their imminent verses, are all talking, of the day of the Lord and not a pre-trib, rapture.You cannot even, explain the pre-trib. false doctrine, without comparing it to and by dividing the second coming. They falsely divide the coming again of the Lord Jesus, the Last day, the last trump, the First resurrection, The harvest, the gathering, the saints, the elect and the Church from Israel, ok Lord Jesus they are rightly divided.) Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause DIVISIONS and offences CONTRARY to the DOCTRINE which ye have LEARNED; and AVOID them. Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but RATHER REPROVE THEM.

thetruthimpart - posted on May 10, 2019 10:43 pm

Reproof when is the wedding – Rev. 19 is part of the vision of the judgment, of the great whore and she is judged then She, His Wife is clothed, for the wedding and not leaving a wedding, and it is after these things and not 3 or 7 years before the tribulation as Pre-trib. says and does not agree on exactly how many years.) Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will SHEW unto thee THE JUDGEMENT OF the great whore that sitteth upon many waters Rev 18:1 And AFTER THESE THINGS I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. Rev 19:1 And AFTER THESE THINGS I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, SAYING, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: Rev 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for HE HATH JUDGED THE GREAT WHORE, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: FOR the MARRIAGE of the Lamb IS COME, (This is present tense or now, after these things) and his wife hath made herself ready – (Ready for the wedding, and it IS after the tribulation and the judgment of the great whore not before. ) Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom CAME; and they that were READY WENT IN with him TO THE MARRIAGE: and the door was shut. (Does the wedding happen after these things, as the Bible says or what your false teaching says?)

thetruthimpart - posted on May 10, 2019 10:44 pm

The truth, when we see Jesus again it will be in all His glory Period.) Mat 24:30 And then shall APPEAR the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they SHALL SEE the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and GREAT GLORY. Tit 2:13 LOOKING FOR that blessed hope, and THE GLORIOUS appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall APPEAR, then shall ye also appear WITH HIM IN GLORY. 2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled REST WITH US, WHEN the Lord Jesus shall be REVEALED from heaven WITH HIS mighty ANGELS, 2Th 1:10 WHEN he shall come to be GLORIFIED in his SAINTS, and to be admired IN ALL them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed ) in that DAY.((( Paul, writes of day and tells us to wait, for when the Lord Jesus appears, this is when all are glorified. What coming with angels is referring to? If you cannot answer, this question honestly you are deceived )))) 2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall JUDGE the quick and the dead AT HIS APPEARING AND HIS kingdom; Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of THIS WORLDS ARE BECOME the KINGDOMS OF our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

thetruthimpart - posted on May 10, 2019 10:48 pm

The dead in Christ rise first at the first resurrection, before the living are changed and caught up. There is no contradiction in this statement only, by adding multiple resurrections, then they make it contrary, to the Word of God

thetruthimpart - posted on May 10, 2019 10:48 pm

Reproof when is the wedding – Rev. 19 is part of the vision of the judgment, of the great whore and she is judged then She, His Wife is clothed, for the wedding and not leaving a wedding, and it is after these things and not 3 or 7 years before the tribulation as Pre-trib. says and does not agree on exactly how many years.) Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will SHEW unto thee THE JUDGEMENT OF the great whore that sitteth upon many waters Rev 18:1 And AFTER THESE THINGS I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. Rev 19:1 And AFTER THESE THINGS I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, SAYING, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: Rev 19:2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for HE HATH JUDGED THE GREAT WHORE, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: FOR the MARRIAGE of the Lamb IS COME, (This is present tense or now, after these things) and his wife hath made herself ready – (Ready for the wedding, and it IS after the tribulation and the judgment of the great whore not before. ) Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom CAME; and they that were READY WENT IN with him TO THE MARRIAGE: and the door was shut. (Does the wedding happen after these things, as the Bible says or what your false teaching says?)

Normal_ Norm777 - posted on May 23, 2019 9:17 pm

So bro….. when you hear that folks are having to take the mark, you'll know you were wrong.
We Americans are spoiled.

Hope you have a backup plan. You can still go to heaven, just not the easy way.

Kelly Michaels - posted on June 5, 2019 3:15 am

So is the Rapture the next event we are waiting for ?

Apostolic Watchman - posted on June 15, 2019 7:23 pm

Point#2 makes no sense. If there are signs that most proceed Jesus coming then how can Jesus say that his coming is imminent. Also, if the rapture and the second coming are different events then why are both tied together by imminence?
Truth be told, I don't believe in a pre-tribulation rapture for this reason: the arguments don't make sense. You also can't find the rapture as being an imminent event in the old testament.
Job 14 v.12 says that the dead will not rise until the heavens be no more.

Theodore Russell - posted on June 28, 2019 2:12 am

YES ! I BELEAVE!

mikha007 - posted on July 6, 2019 6:18 am

there will be a rapture and immediately prior to that there will be a resurrection of the dead in messiah (christ)
but first will come the tribulation…physical and mental, spiritual, this will be the outpouring of satans wrath upon the world not Gods.Gods wrath will come when the believers and doers will be at the marriage supper of the Lamb for 10 days in heaven before returning in judgement and the beginning of the millennium

mikha007 - posted on July 6, 2019 6:36 am

@4;41 you say that rev 6-18 doesn't mention the church ,so who are the saints in rev13?

mikha007 - posted on July 6, 2019 6:42 am

when Yeshua/Jesus returns no man will know the hour or day but He will descend with the sound of the shofar/Trumpet.
when does this happen in the Hebrew Scriptures?
once a year on the day of shouting/trumpets….this is an event which no man knows the day or hour of….why? because it is reckoned by the sighting of the new moon in Jerusalem hence nobody knows the day or hour.
this could happen over a two day period so get ready…look up and watch..

mikha007 - posted on July 6, 2019 6:43 am

there will be no death in the millennium

Abhijeet Kumar - posted on July 21, 2019 12:24 pm

Amen! This is what I believe…

rustyshadow7 - posted on July 21, 2019 11:41 pm

Scripture is very clear, the Resurrection/Rapture takes place AFTER the great tribulation.

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days:

The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not shed its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the celestial powers will be shaken.
30 “Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the peoples of the earth will mourn; and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Matthew 24:29-31

JeepGirl OlllO - posted on August 10, 2019 3:06 am

Nathan, thank you for this video. I found it at a time I really needed it! There are just so many options out there. But listening to your video and reading the Bible, you cleared it up! Thanks!

Nevi Gabriel - posted on August 14, 2019 3:45 pm

To a Stoner :
Well see..Perry already THINKS he's off to heaven. Pre-inserted himself,  just like all who already SELF conferred crowns, rewards, seats at the banquet, rulerships of nations and more..ALL BEFORE Jesus said so.
No..Perry won't be rebuked in heaven at all..because he'll be judged "on earth".

Trust Perry to mention Matthew understanding NOTHING.

Rev 7 tells you about that "gathering".
Jesus isn't gathering 'himself'..The angels are the harvesters EXACTLY as scripture says. The angels do SEAL many..INCLUDING the 144k . The multitudes nobody can count from every nation, TRIBE and tongue. As you can see..all these come out of the Great Tribulation. "Washed their robes spotless white in the Blood of the Lamb" = SEALED. You can see exactly the same as "they were given a white robe" referring to those souls waiting out the full number to be killed as their brothers and sisters.

Rev 21.3/4 goes on with the reiterations regarding all these.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will tabernacle with them, and they will be His PEOPLES, and God Himself will be with them as their God.
He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the former things have passed away.”

Scripture is telling you the MYSTERY OF GOD is accomplished in the DAYS OF THE 7TH TRUMPET. So LOTS is happening in that "time"

Abel gets his justice…sure at the end..RAISED UP like Job and everyone else. .exactly as Jesus said "at the last day"…the dead in Christ rise first..and pray tell WHO was there at before the foundation of the world. .When Cain killed Abel..when Satan tested Job….When Abraham passed…when Israelites left Egypt. .into today…into the events all stilll yet to come..into the LAST DAY exactly as ALL SCRIPTURE goes on at length about REPEATEDLY in its ONE ACCORD? ??

"I know that my Redeemer Lives, and that In The End He will stand upon the Earth and after my skin has been thus destroyed, then in my flesh I shall see God, whom I shall see on my side, and my eyes shall behold, and not another. My heart faints within me!" – Job.

JOB meets HIS REDEEMER.

You will NEVER see this verse quoted anywhere in pre tribulation doctrine. .for reasons of NOT knowing the WORD.

Who's the Redeemer?  Jesus
When does Job meet Him? "in the End"
Where's the Redeemer standing? On the EARTH.
Where does Jesus descend from? Heaven to EARTH.
Jesus comes to Judge the EARTH.
Where are all the wicked and godless thrown? Into FIRE.
The meek therefore "inherit the earth". Not the decayed earth. .it's made NEW.
If you don't understand that Job declaring by the Holy Spirit is talking of seeing Jesus on earth in his resurrected body as he's raised up on the last day EXACTLY as all scripture says,  then you'll know less always.

You're not "caught up" to meet Jesus in the air to forever be with Jesus  in "mid air"!…It's just a moment of ecstasy..you get to meet Jesus in the clouds on His DESCENT.

That's only a little facet of Jesus spectacular coming you're told about.
You….IF "dead in Christ" will also be raised up to  meet Jesus in the air on His DESCENT to the earth…and He comes back TO THE EARTH exactly as the angels of the ascension said.

As for fabricating the 'church' as the "Bride of Christ" that gets snatched away/raptured/harpazo'd scripture tells you EXACTLY who the bride REALLY IS.
"… Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.",
And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the HOLY CITY of JERUSALEM COMING "DOWN" OUT OF HEAVEN from God,

" The wall of the city had TWELVE FOUNDATIONS, and on them were the names of the TWELVE APOSTLES of the Lamb." ie the "Word..the GOSPEL of ONE ACCORD"…not Paul's name with his "secret mystery" as FABRICATED IN by the "dead outside Christ."

Matthew 25 is telling you the EXACT same as REVELATION is…it's the JUDGEMENT. .all on earth..unless you suddenly contend all the goats ascend into heaven.
Also..this fairytale of the "raptured church" coming back with Jesus to execute judgement and killing at Armageddon!
Really?
God that commanded you NOT TO KILL suddenly puts you on a horse to kill? lol . That has to be amusing.
God does NOT contradict Himself.

"Vengeance is MINE. .I shall REPAY" is the essence…
There are different orders of angelic host.
The legions of the armies of heaven are mighty warrior angels. Nobody here has seen them yet..but they do exist.
There is numerous mention made of angelic garb from white linen to golden sashes etc.

"Then Elisha prayed, “O LORD, please open his eyes that he may see.” And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw that the hills were full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha." – ie WAR ANGELS  . Here we see the normally invisible angelic host…a part of heaven's ARMY that God allowed a man to "see".

There is also when MalakYHWH "God HIMSELF" goes into battle seen in interpretation as "Angel of the Lord".
Because really..God does NOT even require the armies of heaven to really execute judgement…but they do exist for any purposed tasks.

Here is an example: " I " will defend this city and save it for My own sake and for the sake of My servant David."
And that night God killed 185000 military …
God can do absolutely anything He decrees…because it's righteous. From the glory of unapproachable light that no man can see and live…To appearing to his servant Abraham in simple 'men seeming" form..even eating with Abraham is the majesty and humility of God.

So factually Perry's joke about Gabriel etc not appearing on horses is another act of stupidity that can only amuse illiterates.

"…. God will give you REST ALONG WITH US when the Lord Jesus appears suddenly from heaven in flaming fire with his mighty angels..
"
So..if God is giving the saints REST..along with YOU…(Incidentally that's PAUL in Thess ..you know,  the same PAUL that you imagine to be revealing a secret separate mystery from the ONE ACCORD of ALL the apostles.) you can know it's NOT YOU coming to "fight at Armageddon".
These are fables. .fabricated by the same "men" who deceive MANY with the "pre-trib imminent rapture doctrine of demons".

"Remain " in "We who are alive and REMAIN… refers to believers alive at the time of Jesus coming.
REMAIN : You never heard this word discussed…"remain" or "are left" is very simply "remaining"…"remainder"…"remnant"…"What is left of"..ie these are the LAST BELIEVERS left on earth at the time of Jesus coming AGAIN. .so there die all the "left behind" fabrications.
Jesus comes AGAIN ONCE. .
not in 'stages' invisibly/partially/secretly/ just his hand snatches people/ only to cloud level . ..EVERY EYE living and dead from known history see Jesus coming.

Perry may have $millions..books..theological degrees and doctorates…and that is USA'S gold standard for lauding 'people'..but these are EXACTLY who God revealed NOTHING to…but these went on to the nth degree about their great knowledge…and generally these have a habit of disguising abject STUPIDITY with "jokes" always laughed at by fellow scriptural illiterates.

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