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Why There Must be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture of The Church

Why There Must be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture of The Church

The timing of the rapture in regard to the adversity is just one of one of the most debatable problems in the church today. The 3 main sights are pre-tribulational (the rapture takes place prior to the adversity), mid-tribulational (the rapture takes place at or near the mid-point of the adversity), as well as post-tribulational (the rapture takes place at the end of the adversity). Pastor Jack Hibbs analyzes bible as well as makes an instance for the pre-tribulation rapture setting of the church . —–. GET IN TOUCH WITH PRIEST JACK HIBBS. Facebook: Instagram: Website: —– . SUBSCIBE. Be certain to click the bell symbol beside the subscribe switch to obtain notifies when a brand-new video clip is published. —– . PROVIDE. When you give away to the mentor ministry of Pastor Jack Hibbs, you sign up with a group dedicated to recognizing God as well as making Him understood. Your present making use of the web link listed below is a quickly, protected means to aid get to the shed with the scripture. We are happy for your dedication to God’s Word as well as its mentor via publications, CDs, radio, tv, as well as the Internet . To companion with the ministry, go here:
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1Saved Sheep - posted on July 27, 2019 4:25 am

After reading all these comments I see nothing but vile hate spewing from the post tribs. Quite sad. Connection??

JAMES BOND FAN 007 - posted on July 27, 2019 9:17 am

There is NO pre-trib rapture…This preacher is so horribly wrong on every level.

How can there be a pre-trib when the world goes into judgment as soon as Chrust returns.

Through Matthew 24 Christ even tells us we're going to be hinted, persecuted and killed in his name.

In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 look at what is saud "those who are alive"!!…That is those who have survived the Great Tribulation.

You Tube "Bill Medley- Revelation" to learn the book.of Revelation properly including The Great Tribulation, Antichrist, rapture etc.

nalvar82 - posted on July 27, 2019 9:39 pm

I just love Pastor Jack so much!???? God bless you and Christians all over the world??

nalvar82 - posted on July 27, 2019 9:52 pm

The more the world grows evil and moves away from God, the more the Light of Jesus Christ shines and the beauty of the Gospel of peace and salvation grows brighter each day…

Watch and pray - posted on July 28, 2019 5:08 am

144,000 Ashkenazis? Hawhawhaw, might want to figure out who the 12 tribes are Jack

steve jones - posted on July 28, 2019 8:15 pm

I was grew up and was fed by Pastor Chuck Smith (RIP). I just found you on You Tube, Thank You for your prophetic message. I will follow you messages. God Bless You !

Franklin Paredes - posted on July 29, 2019 6:16 am

Rapture should be after Revelation 17
1. Revelation 18:23 says that there will no voice of bridegroom and of the bride:
23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
2. Revelation 19:1 shows the church in heaven:
Revelation 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

Brad Mills - posted on July 29, 2019 9:46 am

Only the pre-tribulation rapture fits the model and all of the patterns proceeding before it in the Old Testament. It’s the only model that fits the very nature of God himself and the things he has proclaimed will happen. Mid tribulation and post tribulation models are plagued with discrepancies and fit into scripture like pounding jigsaw pieces in place with a hammer.

Brad Mills - posted on July 29, 2019 9:58 am

If we study anything in the Bible and don’t ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to us we stand a very chance of just collecting knowledge and no wisdom in which to apply it and no wisdom to understand the knowledge we’ve gained and we’re left to our own devices to try and figure that knowledge out. Jesus said I will send you a A comforter the Holy Spirit and he will lead you and guide you into all truth. Those that seek knowledge will find it but those that seek the truth will find it also. Knowledge is just knowledge wisdom is truth understood Hyper dimensionally

WarriorPriest - posted on July 29, 2019 7:54 pm

Uhhhhh, Pastor, Sir no disrespect, I agree with you, but the Watchtower folk don’t believe in the Rapture. They claim Jesus came in 1913.
So I guess they would be pre-pre-Tribulation Christians. ??‍♂️

kingdom music - posted on July 30, 2019 2:26 am

Looking at the 1000 year reign of the Messiah and comparing it to the 7 days of creation, means that 6000 years must precede it. Those started at creation. The first 2000 years were accomplished and the Father Abraham and the Jewish Peoples. The Next 2000 years and then the Messiah. The Crucifixion or “Cutting off of the Messiah” in 29 A.D.( if 30-31 ad add 1-3 years to totals to compensate as many are not exactly sure– me neither ) marked the end of the second 2000 years and beginning of the last 2000 years prior to the 1000 year reign. The 6,000 years of man ends in 2029 BC(+/1-3years). Subtract 7 years for the period known in the end times as the tribulation [this is not the wrath of God, that is later as part of the tribulation during the trumpet and bowl judgments when His wrath is poured out]. So 2029 minus 7 years brings us to 2022 give or take part of a year. At this point the world powers will allow the Jews to build the Temple on the Temple Mount and will have worked out some agreement with the Muslims. Then the temple will be built and the sacrifices will be resumed and they will continue for 3 1/2 years until the world leader (The antichrist) break his promise and sets himself up as god in the temple. It is the beginning of the year 2019 so you have 2019, 2020, 2021, and then sometime in 2022(+ 1-3 years ) or there about the temple will be built or started and the 7 years of tribulation will begin. Go do a study of Daniel and the dates until the cutting off of the Messiah 7 weeks (of years), and then 62 weeks (of years) for a total of 69 weeks (of years) with the final week (The 7 year tribulation) and it will all come to pass. You look for the pattern in God’s Creation and you will see what is to come. It will not be a random date. In the Hebrew Year of 30 on the day of atonement Yom Kippur in the Talmud it states that the Gates of the temple would not stay closed, the red cord on the scape goat would not turn from red to white, The Menorah on the left side of the temple would not stay lit and the stones taken from the high priests garments to designate which goat ca,e up continually with the same stone for the next 40 years until the temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD. and the odds of all four of those things happening every year for 40 years is over eight trillion to one. This is a confirmation the the Crucifixion/resurrection happened in the spring of 29 AD. and showed that the sacrifice of 30 AD by the Jews was no longer accepted. (see the Talmud, both versions). Therefore 2000 years from the cutting off of the Messiah must be 2029(+ 1-3 years if 29ad or 30-31 ad ) and the temple must be rebuilt in the seven years prior to this date, or maybe a bit before so the sacrifices can be resumed around this date. Trump is not the Antichrist, his helping to establish Jerusalem as the Capitol is only preparatory. The Antichrist will come from the one world government as its leader and the object of worship of the one world religion that will persecute Orthodox Jews and Bible believing Christians. Yes we are close to the time to build the temple and no one can stop its coming, nor delay it. MC

AND for us christians/ the church , the rapture takes place BEFORE the 3rd temple !
so we are REAL CLOSE! NOW is the tIME to get right with JESUS DONT PROCRASTINATE and be LEFT BEHIND! Reference : The parable of the 10 virgins matthew 25 .5 were wise and 5 were foolish !

Dennis Hagans - posted on July 30, 2019 2:36 am

Dan 7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

the saints are given into his hand for 3 1/2 years.

NO ONE goes to Heaven unless their name in The Lamb's Book of Life, the tribulation saints names are in that book, they are just as predestinated as any other saint, their name has been recorded in the Lamb's Book of Life from the foundation of the World, meaning that they are rapture ready because they are already predestinated and their names already in the Lamb's Book of life.

Mat 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

The Saints names are in the Book of life from the foundation of the World nobody goes to Heaven unless their name is in that book!

the tribulation saints do not have to die in order to earn their salvation by works, if you add anything to Grace then it is not Grace but works, dying under the antichrist would be a work from your view of the rapture.

by the way, a surefire sign that the Rapture has NOT taken place is that the little children under the age of accountability will still be here, if they are still here then The Rapture has not taken place no matter what anyone else says. the under the age of accountability children will be going with Jesus when He comes, if they are still here then Jesus has not come.

Argotha - posted on July 31, 2019 6:51 pm

Wrath and tribulation are not the same thing.

Judith Clemons - posted on August 1, 2019 12:06 am

The Rapture is our Blessed Hope !  Pre-Trib is correct and I am so ready to go !! Praise our blessed Father. Son and Holy Spirit !! Amen

bullshed58 - posted on August 1, 2019 1:40 am

Jesus come and let us live in Your Glory forever!!!

Donna Leone START - posted on August 1, 2019 1:50 pm

Well said! Yes, there are many scoffers and mockers who think that those who believe in the pre-trib rapture just want to escape it all. Many times I've been ridiculed–even by my own family members for reading the Bible, attending a church that believes in the pre-trib rapture or posting prayers and videos on Facebook.

Bull Whipz - posted on August 7, 2019 10:28 am

How can I be sure I'm saved?!

Anne Ross - posted on August 8, 2019 12:35 pm

This man is a fabulous teacher. I can’t find a decent bible based church like this in New England. Mission field up here. Thank goodness I can listen online! The pre Tribulation rapture is the only one that makes sense. The rapture comes like a thief in the night the second coming is a set amount of days when that happens.

4thGloryMonday - posted on August 8, 2019 8:26 pm

MOST IMPORTANT!!! we are all children of God no matter if we get raptured outta here or we are all here to stand aginst the anti christ. We need not let this subject divide us

K. Day - posted on August 9, 2019 5:33 am

If there is a pretrib rapture, then we missed it cuz tribulation started Sept. 23rd, 2017 at the Rev. 12 sign.

Clarence Holden - posted on August 11, 2019 6:26 am

Why are so many following this pre tribulation rapture? It is not scriptural unless you take certain scriptures out of context. There are two raptures for sure because he Lord gathers his elect at the sound of a great trumpet and we are changed at the last trumpet and the 2 witnesses are raptured just before the 7th trumpet. And then the kingdoms of the earth become the kingdoms of Jesus. All of those scriptures are speaking of the same rapture which follows the asteroid hit which is found all throughout the bible and Mattt places it after the great tribulation, Jacobs trouble.
That is completely scriptural. But there is a prior rapture. It is found in 2 Thess 2. In verse and 2 we are told that the topic is our gathering (rapture) It then says the man of sin has to be revealed BEFORE the gathering. But then in verse 7 and 8 it talks about He who lets being taken out of the way BEFORE the man of sin is revealed. So if the "He who lwts" is the Holy Ghost as I am sure it is then the order of the events in this chapter are He who lets is taken out of the way, then the man of sin is revealed, then the gathering of the saints.
Now we are told in scripture that the holy Ghost will never leave us nor forsake us so He has to take the believers with him.
That means 2 raptures. But is the first pre 7 years or middle of 7 years?

Look now at the child in Rev 12. That is the first rapture. It can't be Jesus because the beast was not around 2000 years ago and Jesus was killed where as this child is caught up alive The woman is the church but is disobedient. Look at the scriptures and look at the church. Do you think all believers will be raptured in the first round? Are all believers obedient to Christ? Do any lie, cheat, steal, live common law, fool around on their spouse, curse and swear an unholy language? If you think they are going up first round then you should read Galatians again.
So how long does the beast reign? 3 1/2 years right? so then the woman MUST be going to the wilderness for the same 3 1/2 years. Not 7. There does not have to be a 7 year peace treaty. There has to be a 7 year covenant or agreement. We have that. There have been a few. Just not the right one yet. The covenant has to be made by someone related to Rome. The European Partnership Instrument was first signed on Jan 1 2007. Then renewed on Jan 1 2014. The EU as a 7 year budget so this is always set up for 7 years. The next renewal is on Jan 1 2021.

There should have been an abomination set up in June of 2017 for this to be the covenant of Daniel. Depending on the correct understanding of Daniel's 2300 days. It could be set up next Easter and still fulfill prophecy.
I challenge you to reread all scriptures concerning the rapture and pray for true discernment.

I am not sure it really matters, but we are told to love the truth,and study prophecy as light that shines in a dark place….

Donna - posted on August 11, 2019 5:48 pm

Pastor Jack, Am I wrong? I thought our faith is perfected by the hearing and obeying God’s word. Our trials and tribulations TRY AND PROVE our faith. I appreciate your messages.

RAPTURE ON 08 NOV 2019 - posted on August 12, 2019 12:03 am

Matthew 26:45, 51-52 (KJV)
John 19:30 (KJV)

bigstepguy - posted on August 13, 2019 6:20 pm

thanks jack

Mark Peden - posted on August 14, 2019 12:21 pm

Matthew 24 : 29:30:31 explains the rapture perfectly. Also revelation 20…….

Tc Haley - posted on August 15, 2019 8:07 pm

I'll make it easy and simple, there is no pre tribulation rapture. Paul tells the thessalonians that there are 2 things that must happen before we are gathered to him and christ return. Here it is: Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That
ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who
opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing
himself that he is God.

The falling away must happen which is apostasy, and the antichrist be revealed (man of sin/son or perdition). The antichrist is there at the tribulation. Also in the book of John, Jesus states he will raise us on the last day John 6:39, John 6:40, John 6:44, John 6:54.

J Paul - posted on August 16, 2019 2:26 pm

Before accepting the teaching of rapture at any time other than only at the end of time, consider the following verses :

In John 6:39,40 & 44, three times He (Jesus) clearly states "I will raise you up at the Last Day."

It's even more clearer in the following verse that nobody is being taken out of the world at Christ's second coming.
John 17:15, 20 > I pray "not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil"… Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on Me through "their" word;

Christ's second coming is (i) for judgement of the nations that come up against Israel (ii) then the Jews of old testament times will be brought back to life, in confirmation of the promises made to the fathers and establish His Millennium Kingdom.

Otherwise, Jesus would not have rebuked Nicodemus – John 13:10 > Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

Nicodemus as a teacher to the Jews ought to have known about Exekiel 36 & 37 which talks about "water" and "spirit."

Born of water & spirit – refers to Ezekiel 36:24-26 > For I will take you [Jews] from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land [Israel]. Then will I sprinkle clean "water" upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.A new heart also will I give you, and a "new spirit" will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Ezekiel 37:11-12 > Then he [Spirit of the Lord] said unto me [Ezekiel] , Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
Then at His third coming the fulfillment of the following verse:
1 Corinthians 15:51-55 > Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed [born again], In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Until then, while we live, we can only renew our mind as Apostle Paul states in Romans 12:2 > And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Thus, the gathering or rapture is only at the end of time i.e. after the Millennium reign of Christ and the first earth and first heaven pass away.

Further, read Job 14:12-14 > "So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
O that Thou wouldest hide me in the grave, … until Thy wrath be past, that Thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! … all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come." [from the corruptible to the incorruptible].

The wrath that Believers (Gentile and Jew) that God spares us from is because He does not cast you away from His presence into eternal darkness as explained in the following verses:
2 Thessalonians 1:4-9 > … patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: … you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be "punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord", and from the glory of His power;

(Contrary to most preachings the time of great tribulation is not the wrath of God but the work of the Antichrist and Satan – and in any event Paul states in 2 Thessalonians 1 that we are to endure persecutions and tribulations; the wrath of God that Believers will be spared from is the everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord at His third coming and for that alone we should be grateful).

Finally, the reality of the flood event in the days of Noah and it's application in end of this age before His second coming.
Mathew 24:37-40 > But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be … And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be … the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The above verses property understood means – at His second coming, one will be taken away in the judgement while one will be left unscathed (just as Noah was during the flood).


New Millennium Ministry - posted on August 16, 2019 5:07 pm

Anyone who think we will escape the great tribulation need to go back to the bible and read Matthew chapter 24. Jesus said after

Honor Emeritus - posted on August 16, 2019 5:08 pm

The Most High is going to get y'all.
Heathens aren't suppose to attempt to teach his word.
Ps. 50:16

Mark Vaughn - posted on August 18, 2019 5:29 pm

Who is antichrist?

Look closely at these two verses below, they are referring to the same entity.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

>The above verse is a perfect description of the Greek meaning for the English word “ANTI”.

Both verses are speaking of the Last times or as we call them; the end times. The way in which John uses this word antichrist is unique and only found 5 times in the entire Bible and only once in the singular sense. Paul was giving us a description of the antichrist in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 by using the language that he did. “Satan standing in the holy place claiming to god” is a perfect description of someone impersonating somebody else and mainly Satan, claiming to be god. This is in essence the meaning of the Greek word for “anti”. (See below)

Greek meaning for the preposition “ANTI”;

(anti)-Strong’s #473 Greek “ANTI”

anti: over against, opposite, hence instead of, in comp. denotes contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence Original Word: ἀντί Part of Speech: Preposition

Transliteration: anti Phonetic Spelling: (an-tee') Short Definition: instead of, for

Definition: (a) instead of, in return for, over against, opposite, in exchange for, as a substitute for, (b) on my behalf, (c) wherefore, because

>There is a big difference between the word “against” and the words; “substitute”, “instead of” or “in return for”. The conformation of the meaning of the word “anti” is found in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 where Paul tells us that there will an impostor that will appear. A substitute, instead of christ, spurious messiah, an impostor. Standing in the holy place claiming to be god.

>The principal role of satan in this age is that of an impostor. You could essentially place the word ANTI in front of every role he has played in this age. He is truly the greatest actor of all times. He appeared to Christ in the wilderness and offered Christ the same thing he will offer to the entire world when he returns as the false messiah. But you have to worship him first. The word ANTI is a dead giveaway as to the identity of the antichrist.

Not a snake; not a dragon in a red jump suit; not a creepy little ghoul, but the most beautiful of all angels and pride was found in his heart. He still wants to take the Throne away from God.

Instead of using the preposition “anti” the English translation should be rendered; “substitute-christ” or; “impostor-christ” or even “spurious christ”, instead of using the word “antichrist”.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 and 1 John 2:18 are speaking the same supernatural being present here on earth claiming to be god. You can go to the moon and back searching for the identity of the antichrist but John and Paul made it very clear who he is. He is satan, in person, claiming to be Jesus-God standing in the Holy place.

Let that sink in.

>Here are a few of the best renditions of the word antichrist; False messiah, Spurious messiah, Phantom jesus, Imposter jesus, Instead of jesus.

>Below; I have listed the scriptures that refer to the false messiah in his final role of this age as the fake jesus.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

>The above verse is a perfect description of the Greek word “ANTI”. Let that sink in.

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. ( 5 months)

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child

Revelation 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on

the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

John 12:3 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

>All of the above scriptures are speaking of the same event. Are you prepared for this? Are you preparing your flock for this?

MV 2019 TheRemnantSeed

Mark Vaughn - posted on August 18, 2019 5:30 pm

A Supernatural Deception

The best example of the second coming of Christ is found in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and the whole chapter is devoted to the chronology thereof. Modern theologians have taken these verses out of context to use them as a pretext and for some it’s just a dad example of reading skills. It is true that the Greek doesn’t translate well and the English is broken up in these verses. The whole purpose of Paul writing the second epistle was to give them a time line that would lead up to the second of coming Christ because of all the previous confusion about 1Thessalonans 4:17.

>Paul was a Scholar of the Old Testament and he knew prophesy given by the prophets. All of them point to this spurious messiah that would imitate the real messiah in a false second coming before real the second coming of Christ. The subject of the entire 2nd book of Thessalonians is satan and his appearance as the false messiah. He is a supernatural entity and he will stand in the holy place claiming to be god and demand you worship him. He will deceive much of the world and if you worship him you will receive the mark of the beast. He is the abomination of desolation that will stand in the holy place claiming to be god. Satan, antichrist, abomination of desolation and 22 other names, all are the same anointed cherub that used to protect the mercy seat now called the devil because he turned against God. His role as the antichrist (false messiah) will be the pinnacle of his miserable existence in this age. Satan is the greatest actor of all times. Who else could fulfill this role but satan and who else can snap his fingers and lightening will come from heaven?

>Surely not a mere man. This role is personal for satan. He wants it bad. Antichrist is his role as the false messiah. The same entity Paul is referring to in 2 Thessalonians 2:4. Antichrist will stand in the holy place claiming to be god or the false messiah the antichrist instead of christ. Sound complicated? It’s not complicated they are all the same entity.

>>> The big difference between satan in his role as the antichrist and all the other roles that satan has played, is that satan will perform this role personally. There is no way a mortal man could perform this role and get much of mankind to worship him as god.

>Modern Christian academia is chasing shadows and many believe the antichrist is a man. Supposedly, he will come from a ten nation consortium and probably will be carrying a pitch fork in his hand and wearing a red jump suit. Oh, I forgot the horns.

>The word antichrist says it all in the Greek. “Instead of christ” Or “Phantom”. The false christ or instead of christ is the same entity that will stand in the holy place claiming to be god. Paul is referring to the antichrist in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and also the book of Revelation in 12:9 bears the same record as do Luke 10:18, John 12:31 and Revelation 13:13. Every time you say the word “antichrist” you are really saying “false christ”. All of these verses above are referring to the same being and that is satan as the false messiah standing in the holy place claiming to be god. This so very important fact is right in plain sight but yet the modern Church has failed to connect the dots together. The modern Church has gone back to the same confusion about the second coming as the Thessalonians did. They refer to 1 Thessalonians 4:17 as the go to verse for the rapture when in all reality Paul told them long ago this was a mistake. They are now trying to rewrite the meaning of the Greek word “apostasy”. They claim it means “flying away” rather than “falling away”. No way. You can call it pre-trib, post trib, or mid trib or anything else you want, but the second coming of Christ will not occur until AFTER the devil stands in the holy place claiming to be god. Instead, modern theologians are teaching their followers the exact opposite. They are teaching the eminent return of Christ before the false christ appears and this is false doctrine.

>The second coming of Christ is laid out by Paul below in a very simple way. Remember you must follow the rules of reading by following the subject and object. The subject of this second epistle is the appearance of satan and the second chapter is very specific. There are two main events that lead up the second coming of Christ. The great Falling Away and the appearance of the false messiah. Those who fall away from the Christian faith are the ones who end up worshiping satan as if he were the messiah. Hence the great falling away. There is absolutely no mention of a rapture by Paul, pre mid or post anywhere in both books that were written to the Thessalonians.

>Every person who has died in the past has been “caught up” in the death of the flesh. When you die your spirit is snatched away and you are literally caught up to heaven but your flesh remains here. The only ones who will be transformed at that time are the ones who are still alive and remain at the real second coming of Christ. They will be transformed at His appearance and not before.

>I will take these verses and smooth them out so they can be easily understood below;

2 Thessalonians 2 King James Version (KJV)

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, (Let me explain the Second Coming of Christ)

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

(Paul is referring to the first epistle he had written them and he is telling them not to worry about the second coming and then goes on to explain why)

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

>Many Christians at the time this was written had spread rumors around that Christ may have already come back. Paul goes on to explain that the second coming of Christ will NOT occur until after a great “falling away” from the faith in the end times and then the “wicked man of sin is revealed” before” the second coming of Christ. (There is only one son of perdition who has already been sentenced to perish and that is satan)

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

>Above is a direct reference to the personal appearance of satan on earth and he will sit in the temple claiming to be god. He would first have to be cast out of Heaven as Revelation 12:9 explains.

>The name antichrist only appears 5 times in the entire Bible and only once in the singular and 4 in the plural. The Epistles of John give us the best clue as to the identity of this “satan” in his role as the ‘antichrist” Below;

(anti)-Strong’s #473 in the Greek dictionary

anti: over against, opposite, hence instead of, in comp. denotes contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence Original Word: ἀντί Part of Speech: Preposition

Transliteration: anti Phonetic Spelling: (an-tee') Short Definition: instead of, for

Definition: (a) instead of, in return for, over against, opposite, in exchange for, as a substitute for, (b) on my behalf, (c) wherefore, because. Christ:


Mark Vaughn - posted on August 18, 2019 5:43 pm

The Eminent return of Christ is not possible until after the wicked man of sin is revealed standing in the Holy place claiming to be GOD. Arguing with Paul is not a good thing. Maybe you should re read 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and the entire second book to the Thessalonians. The apostasy and the appearance of antichrist must happen first before the second coming…. Paul settled this thousands of years ago and here is the modern church arguing the same point that the Thessalonians did….Makes me wonder about the sanity of the modern church….

Vernon Conway - posted on August 20, 2019 1:59 am

I enjoyed your message about the rapture. The best way to describe what the rapture will be is,in the Left Behind series. Left Behind movies will provide the exact description of the rapture. Nobody saw it coming and suddenly millions just vanished without any warning. Be Ready,because you won’t want to be here after the rapture takes place. Amen

The Future is Now - posted on August 22, 2019 1:09 am

The definition of "Rapture" is – the transporting of believers to heaven at the Second Coming of Christ.

It says "At" the Lamb's Second Coming. When does the lamb appear? Not before the tribulation, I'm sure. Edit: So the term and idea of pre-tribulation rapture is obsolete and makes no sense.

Also know that when the Lamb writes to the angel about keeping him from the tribulation that everyone on the earth must go through, know that He is addressing the angel of the church in Philadelphia!!! Not the entire church. There are seven churches and this is addressing one of the angels there.

Cipher Cipher - posted on August 23, 2019 10:00 pm

Predestination? A bit of Calvinist heresy slipping in here?

Bennie Mangle Jr. - posted on August 24, 2019 8:12 am

And our God saves loony bins like me also!! GLORY!!

Peter Dunne - posted on August 27, 2019 8:34 pm

God bless you Jack and your excellent ministry. Greetings from Ireland.

Harold Hart - posted on August 29, 2019 6:55 am


Light Bulb Moment - posted on August 30, 2019 7:37 am

Explain if there was a pre trib rapture, how can there be the 144,000?

Richard Manning - posted on September 2, 2019 7:17 am

Why would anyone calling themselves a christian wan't to believe that there is no rapture? Where is the hope in that? For Christ to leave His bride to suffer the judgement of revelation chapters 4-19 would be so against God's character, not to mention His word. Those who argue against the snatching away of the church before the judgement of God starts have no hope and need prayer. May God Bless each of you.

Constance Clark - posted on September 7, 2019 3:32 am

It is also my hope and source of comfort

Kevin Ball - posted on September 19, 2019 3:38 am

Just study Matthew 24. Very clear about the rapture.

Neil Wani - posted on September 21, 2019 8:26 pm

These timings will be proven at the pretrib rapture. They cannot be proven wrong and the timings prove every other interpretation wrong.

These are the timings

pretrib rapture – our gathering – No man knows the day or the hour Restrainer taken away – Rev 4 1 – Luke 21 29-36 and Matthew 24 32-51 and Mark 13 28-36 and Matthew 25 1-13. The bridegroom is going to the wedding. The righteous are taken at the sound of the trumpet. There is no eternal judgment. The ones left behind ask for the door to be opened for them also. The ones left behind are judged with the hypocrites. No man knows the watch. No man knows if it will be at evening time or the midnight watch or when the rooster crows or at dawn Mark 13 35.

a few short wars

10 kingdoms take complete control of the world from the sea of humanity Rev 13 1. This kingdom has 10 crowns on 10 horns.

Start of Daniel's 70th week for 2520 days.

Some time in the first half a wicked man appears and subdues 3 of the 10 kingdoms (Daniel 7 23-24 and Rev 12 3). This kingdom will have 7 crowns on 7 heads. He confirms a 7 year covenant that was in place.

seals 1-4 some time in the 1st half – beginning of sorrows

a few days or week before midtrib the 2 witnesses appear

mid-trib Abomination of desolation – seal 5 opened – antichrist revealed – start of Daniel 7 25 and Rev 13 5-7 – Day 1261 of 2520 day tribulation. The antichrist will have authority over saints from all nations for 42 months on this day Rev 13 5-7. The nation of Israel will be hid in the wilderness for 1260 days starting on this day Rev 12 14. The gentiles will trample Jerusalem for 42 months starting on this day Rev 11 2.

seal 6 some unknown time in middle of 2nd half – start of the Day of the Lord judgments on the wicked as birth pangs and the wicked will not escape – every island and mountain moved- the elect sealed on their foreheads

seal 7 – trumpet judgments start

trumpet judgments 1-4 effects 1/3 of the world

trumpet 5 – 5 months scorpions – 1st woe

trumpet 6 – 1/3 of mankind killed – 2 witnesses resurrected – 2nd woe has passed, the third woe cometh quickly

close to 2nd coming (days before the 7th trumpet) – city of Babylon destroyed – 144,000 translated to heaven alive (the elect) proclamation of the 3 angels in Rev 14 and then the end will come

trumpet 7 – THIS IS THE DAY THE LORD IS REVEALED TO THE WORLD. THE DAY THE LORD IS REVEALED IS THE DAY ALL THE WICKED ARE DESTROYED – Day 2520 – End of Daniel's 70th week – Day of the Lord when the sun, moon darkened (Joel 3 15) – 2nd Coming (the hour will not be known but the watch will be at evening time in Israel) – Old Testament saints resurrected along with the wicked that pierced the Lord Daniel 12 1-7 – It is announced in heaven that the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of the Lord and of his Christ – the powers of heaven are shaken. the antichrist chooses 10 kings to oppose the 2nd coming. Matthew 24 31, Rev 1 7, Rev 11 15. On this day, Seven Bowls on the same day of the second coming – The wicked are taken (Matt 13 41) Angels gather His Elect from all nations – 100% of the world effected – every island and mountain disappear and the followers of Babylon the wicked religion worldwide destroyed – living waters flow from Jerusalem and the Lord is king over all the Earth Zech 14 6-9 – the next day starts the millennium after Daniel 9 24 occurs – In the book of Revelation this day is given in Rev 10 7 and Rev 11 15 and Rev 14 14 and Rev 19 11. The wicked are taken. The bridegroom is coming from the wedding. There is eternal destruction at this event. The ones taken are judged with unbelievers. The watch will be at eveing time in Israel Zech 14 7. The date will be known 2520 days before the event.

Lorenzo Fresques - posted on September 24, 2019 2:35 am

““At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭12:1‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Morgan Sorensen - posted on September 27, 2019 12:28 pm

The "Pre-Trib" Rapture is a FRAUDULENT INVENTION, void of any Biblical proof !!!
Fact is, 1.Cor.15:50 declares;…"Now this I say, brethren, that FLESH and BLOOD cannot inherit the Kingdom of God; neither doth Corruption inherit Incorruption."
That means that we Christians, who exist here on Earthy in Mortal Bodies of "Flesh and Blood"
must FIRST be CHANGED, at the first Resurrection, BEFORE We can Be RAPTURE'D !!!

And since rev.20:4-5 makes it Clear, that the "First Resurrection" is SEPARATED from the "Second Resurrection" by EXACTLY "ONE-THOUSAND" Years, ….we know by that Fact that
the "First Resurrection" must happen on the "LAST DAY" ( Jn.6:39-40 ) of the TRIBULATION, and that NO Rapture is Possible Any time Before our bodies will be "Changed" at the First Resurrection !!

Morgan Sorensen ( Biblical Theologian )

jacqueline green - posted on September 30, 2019 5:59 am

Surely there is at least ONE truly intelligent educated person here who IS ENTERTAINING this trash that can tell me WHY the beginning of sorrows (AKA the tribulation) is already upon us with all the natural disasters death and destruction and nation rising against nation etc..etc…YADA YADA YADA which is exactly what happens in the BEGINNING OF SORROWS AKA the TRIBULATION why you are ALL still SITTING here discussing this deception when YOU ALL SHOULD BE LONG GONE TO HEAVEN IN THIS PRE TRIB RAPTURE BY NOW proving it is truth? 

Doesn't PRE TRIB mean BEFORE the tribulation even arrives? With all the talk of the earth has only 11 years before we all go extinct surely at LEAST ONE PERSON with a brain here can see we are SURELY IN IT ALREADY …..And if we are already in it then now tell me why….Your ALL sooooo caught up in this deceptive rapture trash that NOT EVEN ONE of you can see that you are already neck deep IN the TRIBULATION yet your dumb asses are still sitting on this earth discussing it and can't see it for the deception it actually is…There is TRULY a sad state of affairs going on here in this forum….Oh never mind I know why because it's now been moved from pre tribulation to MID TRIB…..Well thats one MAYBE GONE BY. I will ask this question again after mid trip and see what idiots are still deceived by it then….Tata for now IDIOTS….

Samantha Irving - posted on October 2, 2019 12:45 am

Pastor Jack, as I studied the Bible I came to the conclusion that Enoch and Elijah would be the 2 witnesses because both of them had been raptured. You are only the 2nd person that I have heard say that Enoch was to be one of the witnesses. Thank you

Virginia Miko - posted on October 4, 2019 9:27 pm

Amen! Thank you Pastor Jack…great teaching and reminder of our blessed Hope. ❤️??

Alex Phaaz - posted on October 5, 2019 4:18 pm

2 thessalonians 2:1-4 the false christ will come before Jesus returns to gather us back to him. He will claim to be God!

Matthew 24:29-31 Jesus will return to gather us back to him after the tribulation. The pre tribulation rapture is not in our Father’s word.

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