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What about the ending of Mark’s Gospel?

What about the ending of Mark’s Gospel?

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43 COMMENTS

Atheist Skeptic - posted on February 14, 2020 9:28 pm

Well it was the first gospel and raises some contradictions. If you argue the closest to the event is most reliable on being true then they didn't say anything and makes the other gospels appear to wrong. To solve this dilemma it appears a scribe later added it.

PB & J - posted on February 14, 2020 9:56 pm

Take the last 12 verses of Mark and your left with 666 verses… in a book called Mark

10:4 littleAl - posted on February 14, 2020 10:55 pm

Let's stop parroting do the research for ourselves to make sure what the truth is.

Chicken Hawk - posted on February 14, 2020 11:12 pm

Mr.Turek you ever think about going to speakers corner and debating muslims

Buffalo Bob - posted on February 14, 2020 11:46 pm

I had never heard it explained like that. Seems logical.

Nick Cassity - posted on February 15, 2020 12:18 am

I like Frank but he acts like to the end of mark 16 is not important but every word of Jesus is important so that's why I use the KJB

David Ramirez - posted on February 15, 2020 1:19 am

Wrong answer Mr. Turek.. The true story is beyond the scope of this narrative. Look up the book, Is the world’s oldest bible a fake?,
by David Daniel’s.

Humma Kavula - posted on February 15, 2020 2:13 am

I'm surprised by Frank's answer. I was taught that the earliest manuscripts were written in codexes, basically books, and if any part would be missing it would be the last page. Maybe they were added last, but you certainly can't say probably. Frank has frequently pointed out that it's good that we don't have the originals because the copies verify one another. Much easier for us to lose a page from older manuscripts than a scribe to add one and EVERY SCRIBE SINCE add them too.

Nicky Jassin - posted on February 15, 2020 3:13 am

Just like 1 John 5:7? What about that verse. The KJV Bible has these verse in it , but the NIV and other modern versions haven’t.

crystal words - posted on February 15, 2020 5:31 am

Suddenly the writing of Mark stopped at verse 8 … what happen to him ? was he sick and then died and others continued to finish the gospel? or was he arrested by the Romans and the other faithful continued the completion of the gospel? What's your problem? The Gospel Is Of God And Not Of Mark Or John Or Some Man Or Angel! People make mistakes and God shows us through His Written Word the Bible, and God shows and corrects their mistakes.

If in doubt and worry then go straight to God and they (the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit) will guide you and teach you with the right specialized methodology in all the truth of God's Word and will.

crystal words - posted on February 15, 2020 5:51 am

Only God Add something in His Written Word … God drive people to do anything He wants…. God wants these verses to be there in Mark's reference about the Gospel of God. Matthew 5:17-19, Galatians 1:8-9, 2Peter 1:20, 2Peter 3:15-16, Revelation 22:18-19
0:41 "isn't repeated elsewhere as handling snakes that's why I don't do it" … and you laugh with the Word of God … alas to you all.
You don't do it … Who handling snakes ????? = ACTS 28:3 … a viper came out because of the heat, and fastened on his hand. …. 5 But he shook off the creature into the fire and suffered no harm.
You are false prophets and teachers and God will judge you very hard because you scandalize the little children of God (Mathew 18:6-7)

crystal words - posted on February 15, 2020 5:58 am

0:41 "isn't repeated elsewhere as handling snakes that's why I don't do it yeah okay totally" … and you laugh with the Written Word of God ….

you don't do it … but who did it ??? = ACTS 28:3 … a viper came out because of the heat, and fastened on his hand. …. 5 But he shook off the creature into the fire and suffered no harm.
= Apostle Paul did it …. and fulfilled the Written Word of God, with which you mock and laugh…
You are false prophets and teachers and God will judge you very hard because you scandalize the little children of God (Mathew 18:6-7)

Eric Morogo - posted on February 15, 2020 6:15 am

Yuuike, come see me.

Andrew Dalton - posted on February 15, 2020 7:35 am

Is Mark’s longer ending Scripture? Essentially, we don’t know, says Dr. Frank. That’s a problem for Sola Scripturists. They say Scripture alone is infallible, but they don’t know what constitutes Scripture. Their knowledge of Scripture is fallible. For them, the Bible is a fallible corpus of infallible text. This is self-defeating. If you can’t guarantee the corpus, you can’t guarantee the text, for the corpus is simply the sum of all the text. If the corpus is fallible, you might have too much or too little text. Judge for yourself, says Dr Turek. In that case, the Bible is a fallible collection!!!

Sola Scriptura is an extrabiblical dogma. As such, it’s self refuting. The Church canonized Mark’s longer ending. Of course, it was added by another author. John 8 was added legitimately too. But the Church, “the pillar and foundation of truth,” (1 Tim 3:15) acknowledged these additions, and Christians must regard them as the inspired Word of God.

Vintage Pro Football - posted on February 15, 2020 8:03 am

I am somewhat surprised by Frank's answer. It does reflect the view of many scholars but avoids the issues of the inclusion/exclusion of the longer ending. There is a fairly new (2014) book by Nicholas P Lunn that demonstrates the arguments for rejecting the longer reading actually support its originality. For example, it said Mark uses a lot of unique words in the LE that are not found in the rest of his gospel. But that appears to be his style when compared with other pericopes of the same length.

Ram Joseph - posted on February 15, 2020 8:21 am

Very weak answer, so what about these passages?? You are answer is not logic at all.

Do not you believe that the Holy Spirit wrote the Gospel of Mark through Mark?

2 Timothy 3
16All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

17that the man of Godfn may be complete, equipped for every good work.

2 Peter 1
20knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation.

21For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

1611kjv 1911acp - posted on February 15, 2020 9:25 am

There are 1650 greek manuscripts that have Mark chapter 16. TWO OF THEM stop at verse 8. Seriously people. You're undermining the Word of God for nothing! Those two manuscripts disagree with each other in thousands of new testament passages!! One of them is the Vaticanus (owned by the vatican).

Did you know that you can actually buy an EXACT REPLICA of the vaticanus bible?? It's $5,400, plus shipping from Italy. It includes every smudge, every stamp, every scuff mark, every margin scratch. It's identical to the existing manuscript. Go look it up. You can literally SEE verses 9-20. They were erased from vaticanus!! And just like erasing something on paper today, the faded outline of those verses are STILL IN IT!

Christians need to do more research on their own and stop being parrots. This is an unnecessary video.

Scorpion 1771 - posted on February 15, 2020 9:28 am

What part of Mark is he talking about?

John 316 - posted on February 15, 2020 9:37 am

Gods word remains eternal. Always. Heaven and earth will pass away but his word remains.

Steve Parks - posted on February 15, 2020 10:06 am

Irregardless of that, Gods word is his word. Things like that don't really affect my faith one way or the other. I stand on the word of God. There are several such verses in the bible and that's ok. I know Christ as my Lord and Savior and one day will be with him for eternity. God bless 🙂☝🏻🙏

Jc Thomas - posted on February 15, 2020 11:33 am

Nabeel Qureshi has a great video on this. Mark was probably to be read aloud amidst people who had seen the resurrection and gave personal testimony at the end. Then as time went on a scribe included the information before eyewitness testimony died out.

Dark Knighte Apologeticz - posted on February 15, 2020 12:58 pm

That's a smart answer. I like it.

Michael Johnston - posted on February 15, 2020 1:02 pm

What? Added later?
So you basically can just ignore what you want to ignore and except what you want to except?
Very convenient if your a homophobe, racist or slave trader to name a few of gods morally questionable traits.
I thought it was all gods word?

Johnny Torres - posted on February 15, 2020 2:43 pm

All of the word of God is inspired you can't ignore anything because you may not understand it. Gbu.

anthony James - posted on February 15, 2020 2:51 pm

The kid on the mic needs to quit saying random words

Matt Holton - posted on February 15, 2020 3:00 pm

There are quotes from Mark given by 1st and 2nd century christian writers that appear nowhere in Mark today. The ending was added later, obviously. Just how much of what we see in Mark today is really what the original author, whoever he was,wrote?

crystal words - posted on February 15, 2020 3:50 pm

Why you use a pagan Orthodox Icon Idol of the false "Mark" at your video ?? You are forerunners of the Antichrist, you have connection with the Catholic and Orthodox church.

Fc channel - posted on February 15, 2020 4:33 pm

if i can what really help me understand the bible is the bible project they explain things great.

Martin Felip Coliflores - posted on February 15, 2020 7:06 pm

What did Jesus do before age 30? why do people think he was a student of Buddha at that time?? please help dr. Frank

Ron E - posted on February 16, 2020 7:01 am

Frank is awesome ….however by his statement just placed the whole scriptures in doubt 🙄👎🏻

The Church gave the world the scriptures and through its authority affirms them as the Word of God.

ernie pforr - posted on February 16, 2020 11:37 am

"these verses were not in the original"
stick with the KJV people, all other
versions have been corrupted.

The Great Behoover - posted on February 16, 2020 12:55 pm

The handling snakes was not an imperative or prescription for all Christian's! Rather it was a prophesy that Christians (like paul) would handle venomous snakes and not be harmed. Even in some of the snake handling churches people are bitten and not harmed. Therefore that PROPHESY is true. Good news everyone…it doesn't say ALL CHRISTIANS will handle snakes. The fact that it correctly predicted Paul's encounter and many others proves the veracity of the verse regardless of whether it was in the original.

Also, don't forget that modern day scholars don't seen to care that older books that had KNOWN errors were not destroyed but rather buried or stored so that now trying to claim the original texts were different would be comparing with FAULTY copies ASSUMED by scholars to be original. Historical records show otherwise.

Filmbay - posted on February 16, 2020 7:12 pm

God knows the truth about this. It is plausible that all 3 "endings" are God-inspired. In that case, they are not 'endings' but a single beginning.

The ending of Mark has no impact on what Jesus Christ did for us on the Cross.

Praise be the Lord. Amen

Josh Walling - posted on February 16, 2020 9:30 pm

The gospels were written by unknown authors, that’s why they say “according to” Matthew/mark/Luke/John

2) Jesus says he’s not god specifically in John 10:36
3) Jesus makes many false prophecies / lies that never came to pass.

Warren Goss - posted on February 17, 2020 12:53 am

Irenaeus, who was a disciple of Polycarp (disciple of the apostle John) who actually heard the apostle John teach and preach. Polycarp wrote that Mark spoke of the ascension of Jesus Christ. This is written in the "longer ending". This is written by Irenaeus (130-202 A.D.) in his 5 book collection "Against Heresies". I put my trust in the Early Church Fathers, not in some guy with a PHD who would never die for the scriptures.

Mick Q - posted on February 17, 2020 7:21 am

What about the many gospels that did not make it into the bible , what can we learn from them ?

It tells us that there were many people making up stories about Jesus , his life , and his death …. and calling them gospels .

There were many stories being told about Jesus from the time of his death , until people started writing them down .
How can we verify which are true and which are false?

Greg Richardson - posted on February 18, 2020 6:47 am

So should we not believe that Jesus rose from the dead….when we delete words because we don’t agree is dangerous to say the least!

Paulthored - posted on February 18, 2020 10:08 pm

Huh. Interesting…
Goes home to read Bible, makes plans for visiting Biblehub/Bible Gateway/Bible Project Mark's Gospel…

varun meeniga - posted on February 21, 2020 11:07 pm

One more problem with that addition is
"Those who believe and take baptism they will be saved, those who don't believe for them punishment will be given."

I don't like the arrogant sense of this verse

Servant Status Ministries - posted on March 6, 2020 2:49 pm

This question was answered poorly
Not every generation had all of the scripture at one time. God reveals more of His Word to each generation. That being said it is written that many things Jesus has done and said that were not recorded by these four men exist. God could’ve been saving a recording or testament from some one else who witnessed Him and reveals it later. We don’t know that. But we do know that what has been revealed has been given to us by God who preserves His Word. The Jews didn’t know about heaven so they claim but God revealed more later that heaven is indeed attainable when you believe in Jesus. Man coming to the knowledge of things doesn’t mean that what they now understand has lost credibility it just shows man doesn’t know everything and yet it is scholars who are quick to say man added to it later…um God didn’t say that. How do you know that this was already in scripture and man as usual tries to take apart or hide parts of remaining scripture? How do you not consider that God allowed for someone later to discover and put back the words of the scroll that was originally there to began with? You don’t know that isn’t the case and no man was there to say otherwise. How can you know if God didnt speak directly to the translators just like He did the scribes, prophets, and the apostles on what they were supposed to have written down? God spoke directly to Moses and we have 5 books off of that. God doesn’t let man write his book. He writes His own books. All the way down to the arrangement of the words of every page. You don’t make a judgement for yourself if you want to believe what is in scripture. Scripture doesn’t bend to you; you trust in Gods judgement of what He allowed in His Word that He has authority over to begin with and who knew everything that man had done before they were ever born. what we have now is what He wanted us to have and what we know now is what’s supposed to be there. Period

Servant Status Ministries - posted on March 6, 2020 3:48 pm

He said no where else is it mentioned that you will handle snakes and not be harmed outside of the Gospel of Mark?
What about Acts 23:3-6
What about what Jesus said in Luke 10:19
This is what happens when you listen to a man and not read the Bible for yourself and have the Holy Spirit of God teach you all things in His Word by your faith in Jesus.

Anthony J - posted on March 6, 2020 3:52 pm

What about the ending of Lord of the Rings?

Viktor Vasilik - posted on March 20, 2020 11:46 am

You won't have this problem if you read from a non corrupted Vatican manuscript version Bible


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