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REBUTTAL: John Oliver's Healthcare Lies | Louder with Crowder

REBUTTAL: John Oliver’s Healthcare Lies | Louder with Crowder


Today we damage down the fallacies outlined in John Oliver’s “Medicare for all” video clip. Want to view the complete program each day? Join #MugClub! http://louderwithcrowder.com/mugclub. Use coupon codes “pupil” “expert” “army” to obtain day-to-day gain access to for $69/ year! Shop the main #LWC shop: http://louderwithcrowdershop.com. Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/scrowder. Like me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stevencrowder. Find behind the scenes video footage on instagram: http://www.instagram.com/louderwithcrowder.
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23 COMMENTS

StevenCrowder - posted on March 3, 2020 8:24 pm

How many Americans who support socialized or Universal healthcare do YOU encounter who are actually familiar with how they work and their real world results abroad? Instead of the fairy-tale version that John Oliver and others try to sell them?

kavugnarr - posted on March 30, 2020 12:58 am

Why are you citing 2006 papers? In the Jhon Oliver study (from 2019 btw) you see 77.8% of bankruptcies being caused by work loss but that also includes the 44.3% of people that claimed medical problems causing work loss. Still medical problems seem to be a huge issue. Since 2005 where the data from the Dranive and Milleson paper was taken healthcare spending has basically doubled, so I doubt that data is still valid.

Richard Pierpoint - posted on March 30, 2020 12:49 pm

Warning – beyond here there be (Rethuglicunt) retards…

WestCountryGirl - posted on March 30, 2020 6:18 pm

I think I need to set some misconceptions straight here. I am an American who has both used the American system of healthcare as well as the NHS (Socialist healthcare of the UK). Despite making 6 figures, I still PREFER the NHS over the American system. I had one of the best healthcare plans (provided through my employer) in the country (I won't name shame the company here, but it's the top company in the US, PPO). I had to pay for so much out-of-pocket just to see a variety of doctors and specialists (I have a chronic health condition), that I cannot even imagine how the working poor (who do not qualify for Medicaid, because they usually make a small amount over the threshold) would survive if they needed medical care. Not everyone makes six figures like myself. Also, the WAIT-times to see a doctor in my area in America were ridiculous (it took me TWO MONTHS to just see my Primary Care Doctor in the US!) When I was living in the UK, I could literally see a doctor the next day, and it was EXCELLENT healthcare. Also, many employers also offer private healthcare in the UK (the private system is available in the UK as well-shocker!). Because I was able to go to university in the UK for cheap (paid for by the government) and was able to get healthcare for my chronic condition, I was able to go from being a poor, sick person to a productive member of society. Just remember this folks- how can you work if you are sick? The UK is smart enough to recognize this fact, and no, not every state has Medicaid like Steven states. Also, if you DO quality for Medicaid, you would have to be homeless not to go above the threshold, because most apartments are too expensive to afford and stay on Medicaid (and not everyone can live with their parents/grandparents).

Also, to people who argue, "Without the US, you would never make six figures", in my line of employment, I would happily make less. It was never about the "money" for me with my career- I have one of the best jobs in the world and would do it for $30k a year. Thank you Socialism for allowing me to be able to study my dream career and not be in debt for the rest of my life because of it.

allen kuester - posted on March 30, 2020 11:27 pm

Chowder head….. looser and a proud non American talking about America issue… no green card … illegal immigrant , FN Canadian…

ClarinoI - posted on April 2, 2020 8:52 am

There isn't a lack of choice in the UK, with regard to healthcare. If you want your cataract surgery sooner you can pay to have private healthcare, just as you would in the US. Only it's cheaper in the UK because the private health providers have to compete with the free monopoly of the NHS, and there isn't the same artificial price inflation for private hospitals your congress has so shamefully failed to prevent.

Kostantinos Vlasakakis - posted on April 3, 2020 6:57 pm

My mother was found very jaundice when we were in Greece visiting our family last year. We did some blood work at a private laboratory – and the phlebotomist/doctor immediately told us to go to our nearest hospital to get her immediate care. We went to the nearest Hospital – the biggest hospital in Thrace – Alexandroupolis's largest hospital. it's renowned in Greece among our province (Thrace is Eastern Greece along the border of Turkey). We were immediately admmited, and were sent in a room in a long term care clinic. We spent two weeks suffering with my family each inside of her room, waiting for one doctor to look at her. The entire hospital had one doctor a day who came to see over 60 patients within his clinic. And half of them were illegal Turks – stealing the Greek health care system. After 3 weeks two doctors began to suspect – after daily prodding to the doctor within his office – that my mother had liver cancer. Mind you, we paid them 300 euro under the table to have him give us this information. Immediately upon getting this information – we sent her back to America do get re-diagnosed and treated as soon as possible.
Within 2 weeks we were re-diagnosed with choleangiocarnicoma – a rare cancer of the bile duct which had spread to 3 other areas. It was, and is stage 4. We are still battling the cancer, we have stopped its spread by the grace of God.
But i know that my mother would have died if we left her in Greece – under the free greek healthcare system. – and yes we did have to pay a co-pay and also pay for the MRI we recieved at the 3rd week of waiting within the hospital.
– An interesting thing of note is that in Greece every family member takes care of their sick faaar better than the nurses – as 3 members of our family were always with her. And each of the other 4 patients who were ill were also enjoying the company of 2 or 3 of their family members right by their side. It is a touching reality that Greek families really care for their family members – something that i've never seen in America.

charlie morris - posted on April 3, 2020 11:21 pm

Reduce the Goddamned military budget you stupid mo-fo and everyone would be rich…

Chiggsy - posted on April 4, 2020 1:16 am

Holy shit how the fuck is this turd in my recommendeds? Fuck you Google, and fuck your back to front social engineering. There are enough cunts as it is, we don't need more cunt factories, and we sure as hell don't need any more cunt apologists.

entropic flux - posted on April 4, 2020 2:26 am

i think his point is that it would be better because more people would be served. it will be more expensive, and we may have to wait longer, but that's because other people who would not have been able to seek treatment are getting it.

i'm curious about what causes wait times in socialized healthcare systems. it might be a more supportable position if the problems could be addressed.

Dave Ward - posted on April 4, 2020 12:26 pm

An american's real life experience in a Barcelona health system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwantba05Y0

British people react to american health care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kll-yYQwmuM

German Health system vs American
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d3QLPdHysc

Kyle Corbeille - posted on April 4, 2020 5:03 pm

Hi there, just wondering if you provide any citations for your claims? I know the other guys(Like John Oliver) are able to provide citations. If your side of the argument provided that instead of trying to be "Louder with Crowder", you may be able to seem more credible.

Caleb Cotten - posted on April 5, 2020 11:49 am

John Oliver is always full of shit.

Caleb Cotten - posted on April 5, 2020 11:54 am

I wonder where john Oliver goes when he needs medical attention.

NickAllah - posted on April 6, 2020 5:00 am

Still didnt mention the 27mil uninsured. Also, even if you lose your job under socialised healthcare, you STILL will never get into massive debt. btw big money interest is a huge reason why America will never join the rest of the developed world

Cinnamon strips - posted on April 6, 2020 11:10 am

This is anecdotal but I live in Canada and got my CT scan within 2 weeks of my first appointment. I agree with Steven on a lot of things but healthcare is not one of them.

Artic Princess - posted on April 7, 2020 8:37 pm

4$ co-pays gone! I hear thunder!

my2cents - posted on April 8, 2020 1:04 pm

While this idiotic video was being uploaded, Covid19 was spreading throughout the United States and our shitty healthcare system didn’t even know or worse knew and didn’t say anything.

Bruno Beljo - posted on April 8, 2020 5:14 pm

What about that woman who can’t afford the fuckin’ insuline? Or the fact that when you have an emergency you still have to think hard about which hospital you’re gonna go to? How can this stuff be normal and positive to anyone, what’s the matter with you people? Can’t we all agree that at least some basic stuff should be extremely cheap, if not completely free?

Edward Collins - posted on April 8, 2020 6:30 pm

We already have Medicaid for the poor. The problem is that there is a HUGE (we're talking about a gap dwarfing the distances between galaxies) gap between the federal poverty level (which the hate the poor and middle class, kiss the ass of the rich Republican run) states and actually being able to afford medical treatment, EVEN with emergency room treatment being free.
This federal government hating guy is also probably counting the days he can start collecting his social security check….
"Highest wage growth" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Look at almost any Youtube channel. "Please support my Patreon account." Way to go free enterprise…
"the leftist criteria Bernie would use…" I'm still waiting for your lies, damn lies, and statistics you use, with your massaged data to get the right answer…
People put off medical or dental care BECAUSE OF COST, not because the bootlicker was out of town, might want to remember that part.
In America, you do have choice. Get it through your employer (and hope nothing bad happens); 2, pay for it yourself and go into the bankruptcy that you say doesn't happen; or 3 not get it at all, and hope that you don't suffer anything….

Alfie Chilcott - posted on April 12, 2020 4:16 am

I live in the UK we have to pay for drugs glasses and dental unless you’re under 18 or on benefits. it. is. not. free!
I’d like to also note that currently the NHS is refusing to treat my grandmother for a major clot in her upper leg and stomach just because she’s over 80 (she’s 81) because they say she’s too frail despite regularly playing tennis and walking two large golden retrievers. The NHS is currently killing my grandmother because of her age and she has no choice but to go with the NHS.

Richard Pierpoint - posted on April 12, 2020 3:25 pm

Hey, Crowder, you window-licking cretin, have you ever travelled as far as, say, Great Britain?

Perhaps you should, you window-licking waste-of-an-ovum. Because British people live, on average, TWO-POINT-THREE YEARS LONGER THAN OUR AMERICAN COUSINS.

Do you have any idea why that might be?

Of course, it COULD be because the United States loses many, many more people, per-head-of-population, to both guns and knives than the United Kingdom does, but, unless you really ARE as stupid as you appear to be, it is also because MILLIONS OF AMERICANS CAN'T AFFORD MEDICAL TREATMENT.

Just saying – now, why not SHOOT yourself?

Vivid Wright - posted on April 13, 2020 7:04 am

Coronavirus has proven that W.H.O is not reliable


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