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How to Avoid Being Indoctrinated at School | Jordan B Peterson


Advice on just how to stay clear of ending up being an ideological mouth piece after university/college. From my 5th Patreon Q&A. The complete video clip:. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNaQUumEhv4&t=1461 s. Want to sustain this network? Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jordanbpeterson. Relevant Links: JBPeterson Online Psychological Programs:. NEW: BFAS Personality Assessment: http://www.understandmyself.com. Self Authoring: http://selfauthoring.com/. Books:. 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: https://jordanbpeterson.com/12- rules-for-life/. Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: https://jordanbpeterson.com/maps-of-meaning/. Jordan Peterson Website: http://jordanbpeterson.com/. Podcast: http://jordanbpeterson.com/jordan-b-p … Reading List: http://jordanbpeterson.com/2017/03/ gr … Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson.
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34 COMMENTS

Burak uçarsoy - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

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nightmareTomek - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

But if your grades depend on you being obedient and the teachers simply "don't like" your point of view in your essays. Then you have to fight them all, and you can't win.

Horny Pervert - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Eliminate the rebels and move out!

Old *SS Account - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Calvin and Hobbes thumbnail! Yes! I love that cartoon, it was easily the best one ever. My mom bought a bunch of the book collections and I read them throughout my childhood.

Alexander Guest - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

I have a teacher with a habit of presenting their own sociological opinions as categoric fact… She's one of those Neo-Marxist types… Should I debate her the next time she does this?

phloomf - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Ha! The courses I've failed for doing exactly what Prof. Peterson advises. But then again I was in Marxist Central, with a Chomskyan twist and the head of department proudly displaying a bust of Lenin in her office. Then I've just quit and never looked back.

Kodamary - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

could you add the a link for this background without the media stuff and other video recommendations?

harrissimo - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Poor babies need a safe place right!

Joe Schmoe - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

This is a terrible idea! You should challenge your beliefs in any way you can, in order to strengthen them, or lose the beliefs that don't measure up to scrutiny.

Ludwigvan - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

What's the outro music?

Mitch Johnson - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Title is wrong. This is about not becoming a mouthpiece for indoctrination.

Bio Chemist - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

I would really like to hear a debate between Dr. Peterson and Mr. Ben Shapiro on this issue.

1drkstr - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

I partly disagree with Doc Peterson on this matter. I think that arguing stances that are contrary to those we currently hold is essential to avoiding 'echo-chambering' ourselves. Ideas that we tend towards must be argued against to see if they can stand up or not and there is no danger in broadening our thinking or exposure to ideas. It seems to me that Doctor Peterson underestimates the student where he implies that arguing a contrary stance will change their thinking and if it did then there is certainly a reason for that beyond suggestibility.

DimensionZombie - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

i was indoctrinated into school

into the school of french kissing the anus

hit me up ladies

if u love lickin the poopenschaft as much as i do

Java Monkey - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Excellent choice of thumbnail.

David Crow - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Writing is just a form of thinking deeply with an extended visual buffer for your working memory. Writing an essay that goes against your own beliefs is a straightforward way of considering different perspectives. The argument put forth in this video doesn't fit the rest of what JBP frequently discusses about 'steel-manning" and writing to sharpen one's thinking skills.

Rob Esveldt - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

I would compare it with torture. With torture you get (almost) never the truth, so you give them what they want to here.

DarkAngelGuyver - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

I remember for english class in high school I had to do a report on The Scarlet Letter. How I hated everything about that book. It was dated and just unpleasant to read. I prettymuch tore it to shreds. Amusingly the teacher felt the need to put in a dig at me saying "clearly you aren't a student of history", but at the end of the day they still marked me with something like 92 percent. The job was petty but I'll at least applaud their marking integrity.

Griffithfan666 - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

I'm taking high school sociology in Australia (I left school early at 16 and I'm going back at 24) and in the course you're required to assess articles for examples of ethnocentrism. What I've found is that the materials chosen for you are usually not explicitly ethnocentric, with one or two exceptions, but in order to do well you basically have to treat the word as though it's synonymous with 'could be considered racist' and critcize the subtleties with as much detail as possible while assuming the worst about the offender. It's talked about in the same way that racism is talked about in class too, specifically by the teacher. One recent example in an article we were given was about an interviewer who said to an Aboriginal surfer "I'm surprised you're so articulate" and I was given the best grade for writing that it's ethonocentric because it suggests the interviewer expects Aboriginal people to be inarticulate. However, if you use the courses own definition, which is similar to online definitions I can see now, that isn't an appropriate use of the term. He wasn't necessarily evaluating another culture according to the standards of his own, unless by evaluating what's being meant is 'noticing'. He didn't say anything about the value of articulation, and he didn't say anything about Aboriginal culture. Though you're rewarded for assuming what he meant was "articulation is good and you possess it as an Aborigial, which surprises me because Aboriginal culture is inferior to my own culture in this respect." It's stigmatising even NOTICING cultural differences and teaching students that it's tied up with racism. This is on the end of year exams too, so you have no choice but to expose yourself to attempts at indoctrination. I hate it, and I struggle with these questions because I don't believe the answers I'm giving, and I don't understand the thought process required for giving them. I've just settled on "if you could construe anything as racist, the course defines this as ethnocentric" and I've received the highest grades since.

Oziel Esparza - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

I recently had to do an essay about the hijab, and part of the rubric was to explain how I should advocate for Muslim women's rights to wear the hijab and what my responsibility is for them.

Instead of taking the easy route and giving some half hearted endorsement of the act, I took the time to refute why I didn't think they needed advocacy and that I wasn't responsible for the actions of others. I got a pretty decent grade and didn't sell my soul to the equity authoritarians, a good decision overall.

Caramel Johnson - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

How to avoid being indoctrinated at school:
Don't major in any of the social sciences. If you do major in a social science, realize that the professor is probably either less intelligent than you are, or that they are an evil person who is attempting to destroy their own society. View them as evil or as an idiot, get your degree, and learn what you need to know or want to learn on your own time.

Orangeman Cometh - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Ben Shapiro argues the opposite —write what your teachers want to hear, get the degree, then use it against them. What does that make him? A sinner!

Seth Apex - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

I don't think I know a single left wing position I would consider true.

RockawayCCW - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

The only way to avoid being indoctrinated by schooling is don't go.

ModestMagician - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

10/10 for the Calvin & Hobbes thumbnail. A childhood favorite.

Afro Latina - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Wow. Zero dislikes. Pretty awesome????????

Skywalker1138 - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Would you consider playing devil's advocate, like the lawyer that debated you some time ago, in the same category?

Dan Skiver - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

That's easy just set your standards for an arbitrator of good and evil beyond your professors or any human for that matter.

will Nill - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

And the politicians on the right will continue to lavishly fund these universities. What brave people they are.

Sophia G. - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

took a course called 'critical discourse analysis', in which we read Terry Eagleton, Halliday, van dijk, Lakoff… needless to say the critical part went only in one direction.

Brent - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Or just do a STEM subject where your professor's opinion about your political beliefs can't influence what the correct answer is. Or can it? It has been a while since I was at university…

Tyler M - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Be smarter than your gender studies professor by not getting a gender studies professor.

Newbskin - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

My brain hurts from trying to keep up with this genius. Throw Gad Saad into the mix and it's a double whammy of abstract thinking overload. I love it!

Apsis Motion Pictures - posted on February 5, 2020 9:56 am

Piece of cake. Don't go to school.


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