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David Davidson - posted on February 6, 2020 8:02 pm

It’s sad that so many lost, broken people really believe this “Christian” motivational speech junk.

Lisa Johnson - posted on February 6, 2020 10:05 pm

Wasn’t he caught up in a cheating scandal too?

carolyn bohannon - posted on February 6, 2020 10:23 pm

Why does he keep repeating himself over and over again?

Savanna R. Lane - posted on February 7, 2020 8:00 am

Is this where the verse applies, "teachers with empty words"

yoashka1 - posted on February 7, 2020 8:22 am

How can anyone sit in this church and agree with his nonsense? 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

1Eye Inc. - posted on February 7, 2020 9:10 am

Gray is adding and subtracting more than rightly dividing the Word. Scripture is far more fascinating on its own merit. God did honor Elijah wanting to go home, I don't think I ever heard a preacher point that out!
The Word points to Jesus but Gray has made it all about us. I'm not even sure he mentioned the Messiah at all during his message. Gray did nothing more than give a pious pep talk and fleece the flock. Nicely done Chris!

Jesse Powell - posted on February 7, 2020 9:26 am

In 1 Corinthians when he quotes 2:9. People always pull that out of context. It starts… as it is written, meaning in the Old Testament Scriptures. In this case it is found in Isaiah 64:4 in context it is talking about freshly men cannot see or hear. When it is quoted again by Paul here is is stating the same truth. The very next verse then says but to us (saved people) God has reveled it by His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things yea, the deep things of God.

Preachers use this verse a lot, even Biblical ones, to speak about Heaven, or something else as such. It’s just not the case here. I agree it’s about Christ.

Pamela loves Jesus Christ - posted on February 7, 2020 10:00 am

Why worry about a school test really ..what we should be worried about is going to hell.
Jesus Christ , is the only truth . Our Father is everywhere. He will here us if we listen , to his words. JESUS TAUGHT US THE WAY THE TRUTH N LIFE .

Jordan Pilcher - posted on February 7, 2020 1:24 pm

I totally agree with What Pastor Chris is saying about "feeling" the Holy Spirit. But the sad thing is that people talk about feeling the Holy Spirit in almost every church I've been to including conservative baptist churches. We have a lot of work to do on this subject.

Chazz Ascoli - posted on February 7, 2020 7:19 pm

Oooooooooowwwwwwwwww ooowww ooowww
-John Gray

Daniel O'Connor - posted on February 7, 2020 11:29 pm

Therefore in the text means that you must say what happened before it. Chris I might have heard this from you but 'is you see a therefore it is THERE FOR a reason.

dearthcharles - posted on February 7, 2020 11:53 pm

So, is this is a quantum physics lesson? Theory of time travel? Is this a subject regarding of how time travels through space? Distance equals rate multiplied by time? The physics of sound? I am not sure what the lesson is. So, what is supposes to accelerate my life? I don't get it.

BlueGirlDeb - posted on February 8, 2020 9:32 am

Thank you….Gray and Furtick and Jakes and his daughter and so so many others do this ALL THE TIME. Thank you for pointing us back to the bible. Because you read Scrioture, tell us Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic meanings, I will continue to watch. You need to hit more of these popular tv preachers…and please use current sermons when you attack people like Joyce Meyer and others. I stopped watching Doreen Virtue as she reads into what people say and seems more of a witch hunter than a Christian.

k im - posted on February 8, 2020 12:05 pm

Question; does he know he is deceiving? Does he believe his own spiel? Which is it . If he thinks he is teaching right and believes what he is saying shouldn't some one PRAYERFULLY snap him out of it? Or is he wilfully leading for merchandise?

The Pilgrim - posted on February 8, 2020 8:59 pm

John Gray is really struggling to find something to come up with in this speaking engagement (not a sermon). I know people who had to stop expanding their borders… that's when Jenny Craig comes in. Does no one in these "life centers" (not church) read thier bibles? If they did they would see he's is not a true expositor. People look pretty bored and unimpressed to me… no wonder he's losing his "life center".

Detail Enthusiast - posted on February 9, 2020 10:16 am


Detail Enthusiast - posted on February 9, 2020 10:34 am

@57:18 "my sermon is coming to a close"
Yes, but the damage you have caused is still moving! 😡

n williams - posted on February 9, 2020 7:17 pm

I do not know you but dare I say that I simply LOVE your vid-thank you Jesus for this vid!

Nat Web - posted on February 10, 2020 8:58 pm

John whatever is just an abusive manipulative satanic preacher

Sharayah Dawn - posted on February 12, 2020 12:46 am

Pretty sure he got this teaching of "ask God who he wants you to be/who He wants to be for you" and "God is interested in the journey/you need to be who God wants you to be now, during the journey so you are ready/who you re supposed to be for the destination" from a false prophet named Graham Cooke.. he has written a few "prophecy" books and this is literally word for word what he teaches…( but then again so does all of Bethel and a lot of charismatics.)

naturalpn7 - posted on February 12, 2020 2:16 am

I've been 2 many churches like this. Always a "race" to have nice things, no problems in life and never over looked on ur job. 😂

Maree Bryce - posted on February 12, 2020 3:47 am

If you have to tell people, I mean, repeatly tell people that YOU feel the spirit of God moving then you are a fraud. God can prove himself, he doesn't need your lip service. Sick of the emotional manipulators that stand behind a pulpit, waving a bible,taking your money and TELLING you that they FEEL the Holy Spirit. Most of those potatoes in the audience swallow it up like it's their last meal. Call these people out! They are damaging so many and laughing behind your backs while driving their Mercedes to the next cash drop while you go to McDonald's in your beat up rust bucket cause that's the only meal you can afford until your next pay cheque. WAKE UP FOLKS!!!

Ulster 1690 - posted on February 12, 2020 6:00 am

Good Chris. Please review the teaching of conservative 'Christians' as well? As long as you don't 'twist' scripture Chris, we'll be fine. (Prophetic Bingo)! This is good Chris, it took me a little while here, to actually hear what is happening here with John Gray. If you had not broken this down in the way you have I'd have gone along with it to some extent to be honest. Much appreciated!

Nate Planicka - posted on February 12, 2020 7:21 am

Sometimes I think it would help anyone who's viewing your videos that support the pastor you're critiquing if you edited the last part of video into the beginning to give them a conclusion of what's wrong first so they dont discount the great info you have before at least hearing the point. Thank you for the work you do

Greg Banter - posted on February 12, 2020 12:06 pm

Tell somebody your in a clown show “

Greg Banter - posted on February 12, 2020 12:49 pm

Do you think they really believe in the garbage that comes out of there mouths

Joshua Riston - posted on February 14, 2020 6:20 am

I think they cancelled his show on Oprah's Network, shortly after you released this.

Sergiu Salcau - posted on February 16, 2020 12:52 am

now, a little bit of note here.

ric david - posted on February 21, 2020 8:06 am

an hour to call out some low hanging fruit is just too long for many i think.

thrasherilxx - posted on February 23, 2020 7:58 pm

Why do all of these false preachers remind me of Oswald Bates from the old tv show In Living Color using any big words they can think of then latching them together and carrying on. That is funny for a nonsense tv show but not trying to convey the Word.

loveofreedom777 - posted on February 24, 2020 11:11 pm

What is (a) “Bulvarism”? 🤔 Is this “TDJakes” guy full of “Bulvarism”? 🙄 I saw a parrot speaking about “Bulvarism” and for whatever reason, watching this reminded me of that … Which brought me to question what’s up with the parrot and this “Bulvarism” business?

Rex Remedy - posted on February 27, 2020 6:29 am

He could just say „give me money, I want your money“. And save himself and us a lot of time. Just say it: Give me money, I want your money! Oh wait, that only works if only he says it and the others say „here is my money, you want my money!“. Hahaha…
Also, give me money! 🙂
Here is my paypal: „“

J K - posted on February 27, 2020 10:00 pm

Greenville and surrounding area is blessed with some of the very best fruitloops John Gray, Perry Noble and Dripping Wet Furtick North Greenville grad.

monkeynumber nine - posted on February 29, 2020 4:12 am

I really appreciate your videos.
Thank you so much.

Jeremy Perkins - posted on February 29, 2020 2:24 pm

Sad situation! I'm just listening to see how he manipulates people. Not a true man of GOD at all..

anselman - posted on March 5, 2020 10:16 am

"pseudo profound bovine scatology" I like your phrase and may have occasion to borrow it sometime! There's a lot of it about.

uriah peep - posted on March 5, 2020 3:58 pm

It is now 3.5.20 and almost daily there are newspaper articles in the Greenville News (Greenville SC) concerning the unraveling of the tangled mess of financial knots created by both Ron Carpenter and John Gray relating to the handing over of the church campus to Gray when Carpenter went to Ca for new venture into conning stupid people out of their money. Ron mortgaged every single piece of property on the campus. He went to the denomination headquarters of the Pentecostal Holiness church and secured a mortgage against some of the property……BUT, the PH headquarters soon learned that they would never get their money paid back…….so they CALLED in the loan upon which…….Ron got other lending agencies to extend another mortgage on the same properties. Ron also had Redemption to purchase a $700K home in the area that was designated as his "retirement" home. There is no end to the mishandling of Redemption position as a "cash cow" in order to divert funds/properties INTO his own name. And do understand this one point…….nearly all of the thousands of members of Redemption/Relentless are not wealthy…..they live from one week to the next……while shelling out big chunks of their weekly earnings to finance these shameful illegal activities.

Nat Web - posted on March 6, 2020 12:10 pm

Gray is a con man

Helmut Huneke - posted on March 8, 2020 7:29 pm

Have you noticed that some preachers use a certain rhythm in there speech, some do a dance, it can be interesting to mute those and see the "charming"

Charlene xxx - posted on March 10, 2020 5:33 pm

How about being homeless for 2 years. A ,66 year old female, looking for more income the best I can. Can't trust anymore churches and God hasn't connected me to any ministry, or fellowship. I used to try being a part of a church or ministry but now I am detoxing from this manipulation and false ways.
I only know I am hanging on to my eternal life through the only way, the only TRUTH , through Christ Jesus.

Charlene xxx - posted on March 10, 2020 5:34 pm

This Mr Gray is bringing pure lies from HELL. I just could not continue listening to this manipulation because it brings back memories of what I am staying away from.

Barb S - posted on March 11, 2020 5:06 pm

This is how they spin things to their congregations when they are in sin & pride & have been found out. He is really talking about Ron Carpenter & himself & he doesn't need to run Ron's race even though he took over his church. They find a way to use their situation & add some scripture to it to justify their mess. It's double talk to make them think it's about them, but it's really about John's mess & hoping he experiences the favor he wants in his lawsuits. I attended a church for 18 years & the pastor/apostle/bishop was always in some trouble: 2 drunk driving convictions, arrested for exposure & trespassing. They create their own problems then preach sermons to their congregation to make it seem as if it is God testing them or trying them. We were told the police & the community were out to get our pastor because we were a mixed race church in a predominantly white suburb & the devil was mad at him. I stood by him & defended him through the exposure trial & the 1st drunk driving conviction, but I was seriously questioning everything. He was put on an ankle monitor for 2 weeks for trespassing in a park after dark & the exposure stuff was dropped. He lost driving privileges for the 1st drunk driving conviction. He said the police were harassing him, so he gave them a hard time. He said it was his birthday & he was at a friend's house celebrating his birthday & new book that he had just finished & he had some wine, but wasn't drunk. Anyway, could go on & on & John Gray & John Carpenter both preached at this church I no longer attend. These so called pastors are experts at spinning messages to their congregations which are really messages all about them & their prideful situations! They exactly are manipulating their congregations to get them to stay loyal to them no matter what. They are excellent manipulators & he generally believes this stuff for himself. He's believing for his borders, capacity & influence to get what he wants out of this horrible legal mess he has gotten into & he needs them to believe it too. And since this video, Oprah has cancelled his show, he has filed another lawsuit, Ron Carpenter has put more pressure on John for money cuz he needs it for his property expansions & for his 6.5 million retirement he's owed through $250,000 a year payments from John' s church. Also, an ex member who was in charge of finances for Ron Carpenter, but stayed on to do the same for Gray's church, is now suing for money owed for salary not paid & vacation time accrued in the 10's of thousands of dollars. You can't make this stuff up. The Greenville News has been reporting on all of it. It is a spot & blemish on the Body of Christ. So because of all that, John Gray spins a wonderfully crafted narcegesis message. He of course doesn't sleep well & is weary & can't die cuz God has such a tremendous thing for him. He doesn't sleep well & is weary because of the mess in his life due to greed. Amazing how they make it all about them & all their promises along w/those connected to them.
Chris, you broke this down so well. I can smell manipulation a mile away because of the church I was taught so much wrong doctrine in. It is all gobblety gook about levels & anointing & guilt tripping if you don't have all these magical things happening in your life that God has promised. I am so glad I left that church. I pity these people in these churches who fund the lavish lifestyles of these greedy men & eat up these messages crafted for itching ears.

Warpbarrier - posted on March 16, 2020 7:34 am

ALL your video could have been resumed by one thing : Prayer

Anders - posted on March 20, 2020 5:39 pm

Is this the same guy who cheated on his wife, then tried to make up for it by (very publicly) surprising her with a Lamborghini?

Chris Colwell - posted on April 13, 2020 9:27 pm

Chris, I'm 41years old.I have been raised up in this all my life…WOW NOW WHAT..IT IS STARDING ALL OVER AGAIN…

Rooije Merwe - posted on April 20, 2020 12:00 pm

come out of her my people. oh man: the wrong people in the wrong place in church. And this kind of stuff is rampant in the church. False apostles arose in Paul's time already. I cant listen to this without getting real angry. I really need help to give it to God. Crazy and he doesnt even quote a whole bible verse. "to run with endurance" has nothing to do with sprinting. What crap.

Rooije Merwe - posted on April 20, 2020 12:33 pm

Nice (I have just forgotten what I wanted to write, but this will come to remembrance shortly. Here comes) analysing. I just love your "narzegesis……" terminology. Thanks for that. Ill be on the watch for those sneak entrance into my private space. No place by me any more. Thank You Jesus. By Jesus grace. to think every word John Gray is speaking is just wrong. Keep out of the reach of these people. Praise God.

amy humphrey - posted on April 20, 2020 7:59 pm

I used to just love him.. so thankful God brought me out of that..

am gentry - posted on April 24, 2020 8:25 pm


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