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Lesson 3 - Anthropology: Who is Man?

Lesson 3 – Anthropology: Who is Man?

The Bible tells us that man was created in God’s image but fell from innocence through sin. Modern psychology, on the other hand, asserts that man is inherently good and behaves badly only under the influence of social or institutional pressure. This lesson explores the implications of both views. Visit for more information.
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wolf4lifepsl - posted on October 8, 2008 1:13 am

LOL Your throwing logic out the window.

MaxSafeheaD - posted on October 8, 2008 2:59 pm

No I'm not.
I don't know if it's possible to make someone love.
God, on the other hand, can do anything … apparently.

wolf4lifepsl - posted on October 8, 2008 9:05 pm

You don't understand what I'm asking.

Yes it is possible for God to force or
make a human being love him.

But is that 'true' love?

What is true love?

Again,without free will is true love possible?

yes or no question. Mr.Science and Philosophy

MaxSafeheaD - posted on October 9, 2008 1:22 pm

No need for sarcasm.

"But is that 'true' love?"
"What is true love?
"Again,without free will is true love possible?"

*Sigh* God, can do anything.
Don't get moody at me just because this God idea doesn't make any sense – it's not my idea!

MaxSafeheaD - posted on October 9, 2008 2:03 pm

I'm not comparing go to man, it's logical reasoning.

Your conclusion god exists relies on the authority of the bible. However, the authority of the bible relies on the existence of the Christian god.

Is this making any sense yet?

Here's another example:
I close my door when I drive.
My door is closed, therefore I'm driving.
(hint: what if someone else closed the door?)

SonicStorm12 - posted on October 9, 2008 3:14 pm

Those reasonings make no sence. Just like evolution. People can create any kind of reason they want to disprove something, but in the end they find out that their reason was wrong. Evolution not only strikes God down as being the creator, but it strikes us down as being being created in the image of God. You are practicly implying the same thing about the Bible by saying the that Bible and man are both sinful and can't be trusted. Who can YOU truely trust in your life?

wolf4lifepsl - posted on October 9, 2008 3:37 pm

"Don't get moody at me just because this God idea doesn't make any sense – it's not my idea!"

LMAO Do you guys see how he flip flopped his
way out of the question?

MaxSafeheaD - posted on October 9, 2008 8:38 pm

Your question:
"it is possible for God to force or
make a human being 'truly' love him?"

My answer:

WTF is flip floppy about that? True love is unconditional. All God would have to do is create morons who would love him no matter what he did – and it looks like he succeeded.

strengthonor - posted on June 30, 2009 6:35 am

God CANNOT force a human being to truly love Him, because true love is sincere and volitional.
The question itself is not valid because it has a built in contradiction. There is NO CONTRADICTION in the character of God, so asking if God can contradict himself is a mute point. Because then it follows that God can be both good and evil at the same time. Same goes with making a rock to bigg to lift or creating a one ended stick….invalid and not worth any more time…..

Crumper00 - posted on September 24, 2009 4:22 pm

People are forgetting the purpose of our lives on earth. Character building doing Gods commision! God loved us first that he put us here, he creaed us. We are in the image of God but on earth Satan is our ruler, he controls the earth (remeber he offered it to Jesus). Unless we accept Christ as our saviour we shall surely perish. Just because its Gods will and that he loves us, then Christ sacrificed for the sin we were born into; all we are asked is to choose between God and Satan.

DreamsofMajesty - posted on June 26, 2010 5:22 pm

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strengthonor - posted on August 27, 2010 4:53 am

@francheskalola I am well aware that God id not evil. Someone had posted one of the self defeating questions similar to "If God can do anything, could He create a rock too heavy for Him to lift?" I addressed that such a question has a built in contradiction, and is not valid because God cannot contradict Himself. IF HE COULD that mans He could be both good and evil at the same time. But God is ONLY GOOD.

imapisces23 - posted on November 21, 2010 8:13 pm

evil comes from satan who wanted to be "like the most high."

imapisces23 - posted on December 1, 2010 2:12 am

@tallliza The best thing Satan can do is try to make people believe he doesn't exist. I've experienced Satan's demons first hand and he is very real and it is nothing to screw with. Believe whatever you want but evil is out there so there must be a source for it and that source is satan. Everything the Bible says is true how do I know? When being attacked by demons the only thing you can do to have power over it is to call out to Jesus Christ, nothing else will help you in that situation.

strengthonor - posted on December 1, 2010 6:04 am

@tallliza I know nothing about God you say…..Care to explain your assertion?

strengthonor - posted on December 1, 2010 6:06 am

@imapisces23 Actually you follow the example that Jesus set for us and you speak the Word back at him. "It is written" sets the standard for how we are to utilize the SWORD OF THE SPIRIT; the(spoken) Word of God. That is why in Revelation, Jesus rides in with a sharp two-edged sword coming from His mouth.

MaxSafeheaD - posted on January 3, 2011 7:32 pm

people often confuse what feels good with what is true.

MaxSafeheaD - posted on January 5, 2011 7:39 am

Of corce nothing is ever 100% certain because you might have made a mistake.
However, the only way to show any idea to be reliable at least, is to attempt to test it..
Most people assume truth to be what is given to them by authority, few realise the authority of all men is built on other men and can be horribly misguided, that's the weakness of people having limited tools and education.
No, truth isn't reliant on interpretation, that is the difference between truth and perception.

MaxSafeheaD - posted on January 5, 2011 7:43 am

prove it.

strengthonor - posted on March 11, 2011 4:31 am

@tallliza To answer your question: What I know of God comes the same way I know about people in my life. Spending time with them and what they reveal about themselves. God is ABSOLUTELY loving, caring and compassionate…also gracious, merciful and just. What is distinct about God and His many attributes, He does not revolve between them like we do. He is every one of these attributes all the time FOR ALL TIME. Knowing God fully is truly unknowable in this lifetime.

strengthonor - posted on March 12, 2011 3:09 am

@talllizaThe same reason why ANYTHING is allowed to happen or not happen. This is a fallen world. The rain falls on the just and unjust alike. You didn't ask me about a single death here or there, but you ask about a multitude. Does it only matter to YOU when multitudes die? Were you not thankful for a half a second that you were not included among the dead. If so, to whom were you thankful. If you are an atheist, you have no grounds to even ask the question why, nevermind want an answer.

strengthonor - posted on March 12, 2011 2:02 pm

@tallliza God is absolutely involved. To the best of my understanding, even if by some miracle, all those were miraculously saved, most would quickly dismiss it as an fluke of nature and be content with that. Anything but God. After all, if God was able to save these people here, why not those people over there too? You have no grounds to ask a moral question as an atheist, because morality does not exist beyond objective opinion in atheism. What is morality based on?

strengthonor - posted on March 14, 2011 4:20 am

@tallliza You still have yet to answer why you even care. Why did God allow them to die? Why did He allow you to live? You are positing a moral question, when in reality as an atheist, morality does not exist beyond personal opinion. So you don't like that all these "innocent" children die. Explain to me how and why that is not right beyond your personal subjective opinion. You can't without affirming that God exists. How do you define innocent?

strengthonor - posted on March 14, 2011 12:33 pm

@tallliza You still speak of innocent in subjective terms because you cannot give me a straight answer. HOW DO YOU DEFINE INNOCENT? HOW DO YOU DEFINE EVIL? Is truth a relative term? If you are an atheist, you have no grounds to care. If you are a muslim, you have no grounds to ask the question because "all is as allah wills it". You cannot ask the question as an eastern mystic because its all Karma in some form or fashion. Did I miss anything?

strengthonor - posted on March 15, 2011 2:31 am

@tallliza It does matter how you define evil and good. If you agree with God's standard, then you have an anchor point and rational foundation for morality. If you don't then you need explain where morality comes from. Its a logical breakdown of how the individual worldviews themselves do not leave room to ask the question, let alone want an answer. This is a 3 dimensional question and you keep asking for a flat answer. Before this continues, I am curious: Pro Life or pro Choice?

strengthonor - posted on March 16, 2011 5:24 am

@tallliza Let me rephrase…The standard of morality outlined in the Bible leaves little room for interpretation. Right is right, wrong is wrong. Either one or the other. Its what you call moral absolutes. Moral absolutes cannot exist rationally if God does not exist. Objective morality (morals based on an external point of reference, not determined by cultures or opinions) can only exist if God exist. Objective morals DO exist. Therefore God exists. Pro life or pro choice?

strengthonor - posted on March 16, 2011 2:30 pm

@tallliza I never said a non-believer could not live a moral life. Their morality has no rational basis outside of God. Its mere opinion. You bring up things that you don't like, now explain why its more than just something you don't like. I agree things are right or wrong. Now tell me what you base this off of. Please stop trying to fence with me and answer my question. Its a simpler question: pro life or pro choice?

Christopher Jones - posted on May 23, 2011 7:47 pm

@tallliza One day, I hope you discover that some things are as simple as black and white. Life and death, Liberal and conservative, chaos and harmony, corruption and purity. One day you will learn that a single, simple choice makes all of the difference. God bless you.

Steven Ward - posted on October 21, 2012 7:01 pm

You are confusing teachings on history with teachings on morality, or more specifically the history itself with the morality we are to learn from that history. The Old Testament contains both.

Epi Robles - posted on July 24, 2016 6:53 am

I've bought the series, and so far I've seen the first three lessons. Out of just the first three, this lesson taught me something that broke my heart but has made me think hard about what is going on with mankind (humans, human nature). I will not spoil it, but just know that God is greatly to be praised.

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