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Why Eldership Is for Men

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Robby Monroe - posted on December 11, 2012 12:06 am

I love Pastor John's enthusiasm. 🙂

Ricky Britner Jr - posted on December 11, 2012 12:19 am

Which sermon is this from?

Krazy Kokonut - posted on December 11, 2012 1:03 am

Preach Piper, preach!!

avissony - posted on December 11, 2012 4:29 am

Yes, it is necessary to do this. But make sure that you do it from a pure heart: that the reasons why you do it is for the glory of God and out of a concern for his salvation. God be with you!

ImNotBlingRU - posted on December 11, 2012 4:20 pm

No…Simply love him, and pray for him. I also would no longer teach with a raised voice….simply teach those that are their, and wait for him to join you.

leojmann - posted on December 12, 2012 7:33 am

i agree.. prayer plus a correct & loving lifestyle is the best u can do with a person having that kind of mindset

meinaim - posted on December 12, 2012 9:09 am

we, this is all of us, are called to profess Christ, you can reach out to him by proclaiming biblical truth, you can challenge him with verses that contradict his beliefs and ask him questions about his belief.
by this you confront him with God and his truth, not with yourself and your convictions, if you get my point..

yuri303030 - posted on December 12, 2012 9:23 pm

"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,"
1 Peter 3:15

Direct confrontation could make him look bad and wrong. It doesn't however make Christ look more desirable. Nothing works better than a living a life of love and gentleness towards people who do not agree with us and showing them how desirable the gospel is.. Hopefully this helps you brother.. 🙂

Yegor Lyashenko - posted on December 18, 2012 9:11 am

I know Paul did but did Jesus specifically saying anything on this subject matter? I'm curious.

Keith Thompson - posted on December 28, 2012 6:34 pm

My brother, Paul was one of the Christ's greatest apostles. Paul's teachings are God inspired as he was taught by Christ himself. You can trust in his and his fellow apostles words because they are God inspired doctrines. God bless

stilliving - posted on January 4, 2013 1:03 am

like yuri303030 implies, it has to be done in love. And your authority/reference is the scripture – not what someone else says. Ensure that that is where your allegiance lies. Finally, the scripture speaks of prayer as our most effective tool in disseminating truth.

Yegor Lyashenko - posted on January 5, 2013 9:35 pm

I agree with that. However don't you think that when Paul was writing (inspired by the Holy Spirit) his letters to the churches and individuals he was writing to them specifically and not the church of the 21st century? While Jesus spoke knowing the future generations and churches (including our times)? That is why I asked if Jesus specifically said anything regarding this issue.

Keith Thompson - posted on January 5, 2013 10:00 pm

Brother, if Christ himself taught the apostles of elect everything they know and where later commissioned by the Christ himself to go into the world and bring fourth the gospel, we must understand that any and all doctrine that was taught throughout scripture is God inspired and is the word of God. As to answer you question pertaining Pauls letters to the churches, hebrews 13:8 comes to mind, it may have been directed towards them but its a message that never changes.

marconi314 - posted on July 27, 2017 7:46 pm

I thank God that Pastor Piper doesn't subvert God's Word to the religion of political correctness as so many "Christian" churches do.

Rocky Bokz - posted on July 12, 2019 7:21 am

It was the voice of Christ that speaks through the prophets in the Old Testament and Apostles in the New Testament. Jesus Himself gave instructions to Moses regarding ordination of elders,pastors, priests, bishops, and church leadership in the five books of Moses, which Paul was quoting from. Paul have no right to say anything different from the principles already established by God ie Christ Himself in the Old testament, thus Christ did not ordained women in the New Testament. He choose 12 men to be apostles. One killed himself, Judas, and Jesus came down from heaven to appoint Paul to replace Judas. After Christ appointed the original 12, He later appointed 70 elders. Did Jesus forgot that there were women disciples among His followers? No, of course not. The role of leadership, priests, elders, pastors, and bishops are set aside by God Himself for men, because the man Adam was created to represent the man Christ Jesus who gave Himself for the church, and the woman Eve, represent the church. The woman was given an important role, support the man and care for the home, especially the children. It is Christ prerogative to establish church order, not the church to tell God that He has forgotten about women. Most of the denomination churches today are following the ecumenical agenda of inclusiveness and political correctness that have NOTHING to do with the Scriptures, and the majority of Christianity is using the Scriptures to support their errors.To say that Jesus did not say that women should not be ordained as pastors or elders is to put a different meaning to the word of God and stretching it to suit man's intentions.

Jimmy Prakash - posted on October 8, 2019 1:59 pm


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