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Will We Meet Jesus as Soon as We Die? // Ask Pastor John

Will We Meet Jesus as Soon as We Die? // Ask Pastor John


We commonly claim that our dead liked ones are “with Jesus currently.” But Paul appears to claim that Christians will certainly satisfy Jesus at the 2nd coming. Which is it? Recently we have actually gotten a great deal of crucial concerns on 1 Thessalonians 4: 16–17, the rapture message. Here’s one from Jonathan, that eavesdrops from NewJersey “Hello,Pastor John! It’s rather normal to listen to Christians claim of somebody that has actually passed away, ‘They’re with Jesus currently.’ But in 1 Thessalonians 4: 16–17, it seems like Paul is stating that Christians that have actually passed away will certainly satisfy Jesus at the 2nd coming. Do Christians most likely to be with the Lord when we pass away, or will we satisfy him when he returns to planet? I think what I’m asking is this: When a Christian passes away, what precedes: seeing Jesus or being elevated from the dead?”. Episode1291: https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/will-we-meet-jesus-as-soon-as-we-die. RelatedResources:. “HowWill Christ ‘Reconcile’ Unbelievers to Himself?” https://youtu.be/QA-YUSLp3Xo. “WhyWill Some of Us Get Fewer Rewards in Heaven?” https://youtu.be/w8kN9p4p6oE. “DoPets Go to Heaven?” https://youtu.be/_XYvut9igdU. “HowSoon Is Christ’s Return?” https://youtu.be/P0xIewwuJcY. AskPastor John Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKvMOJ1T8T4&list=PLFF7F6AE365 DA3564 Find various other current as well as preferred Ask Pastor John episodes, http://desiringgod.org/ask-pastor-john.
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39 COMMENTS

Servant Of Jesus - posted on April 7, 2019 12:34 pm

Im sorry pastor john but i highley disagree with your podcast on this, i love most of your videos but there is more scripture pointing to resurrection of both body and soul toghether then there is disembodied souls floating around in Heaven :No one has seen Heaven, except the Son who is from Heaven. When Jesus said to the thief on the Cross who defended Him "surely I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise" this is a misinterpretation of actuall scripture all because of punctuation errors by translators, the original greek and Hebrew manuscripts read like this: surely i tell you today you will be with me in paradise" notice there isnt any punction as the ole english translators have placed, it should be read like this"surely i tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise" the misconception is that the thief went to paradise that day with Jesus. when Jesus was actually saying basically: im telling you this today, not you will go to paradise today. Also scripture tells us Jesus rose from the dead 3 days later and then He ascended into Heaven, so how could the thief have gone to Paradise the day of Christ Crucifixion, when Jesus Himself was not resurrected until 3 days later? Also scripture tells us Jesus was given His spiritual body which was a physical and spiritual body not just a soul and He could pass through walls and fly up into the clouds and into Heaven to be with the Father, so the ressurected in Christ will be given similar spirtual/physical bodies as well in the New Jerusalem ( Eden) on Earth and New Heaven described in Revelation 20-21

Servant Of Jesus - posted on April 7, 2019 1:07 pm

Paul said its far better to be with Christ, but Yeshua (Jesus) Himself taught that we will be ressurected unto everlasting life and the wicked perish, not suffer for eternity bit perish which means to be destroyed that is why the lake of fire is called the second death, because the bible says the qagea of sin is death, not eternal torture, everlasting fire means the fire shall consume all and burn all things wicked until it is all completely destroyed and God will build His new kingdom on Earth and Jesus Reigns for 1000 years and then forever on Earth and in the new Heaven ,paul may have desired to be with Christ immediately but Jesus is about eternal life and ressurectuon.

Ryan Buikema - posted on April 9, 2019 5:54 pm

I guess another scripture that has always perplexed me besides 1 Thesaloniens 4 is John 14 when Jesus says I go to prepare a place for you SO THAT when I come back (2nd coming) I will (future tense) take you to be with me so that you may be where I am.
It appears that we do not see Jesus until the second coming. Also in John 14 Jesus says " No one has seen the Father accept the one who came down from heaven (being Jesus himself ).

Leslie Alexander - posted on April 12, 2019 1:52 pm

I disagree with Pastor John. In

2 Corinthians 5:6-9 NIV [6] Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. [7] For we live by faith, not by sight. [8] We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. [9] So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it.

Paul speaks of the desire of a Christian to be in the presence of God. He’s not making a statement that a Christian’s soul is either in the body or with God. The second scripture referenced I believe does give an accurate depiction of a “when” and that will be at the same time. The dead in Christ will be caught up with the living and meet Him in the sky.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 NIV
[16] For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. [17] After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

I believe that all believers will be gathered up to the Lord at the same time with the exception of Moses and Elijah. Who were explicitly gathered up by God in the word.

RTHA300 - posted on April 13, 2019 2:17 am

let me say this, and im fucking serious. i usully just go off on these videos especially on this asshole, but i have a question. who in the fuck made this asshole a damn god, no body knows what this man claims he does. you are nuts piper and you sound gay as fuck too

EDWIN N. PAYE - posted on April 20, 2019 4:05 am

And I tell you the truth, some standing here right now will not die before they see the Son of Man coming in his Kingdom.
Matthew 16:28
Luke 9:27

Peter Christen - posted on April 22, 2019 8:57 pm

Is it not true, when you die, time is not part of us anymore. So when you fall asleep-die, your next moment will be with Jesus even if 1000 years pass on earth. Just a thought

Saved by God's Grace. - posted on May 2, 2019 7:34 pm

Luke 23v43 And he said to him, Truely i say to you , Today you shall be with me in paradise.

Combat Bananas - posted on May 5, 2019 10:11 pm

What is the short answer

Sergeant - posted on May 6, 2019 10:22 am

Sorry Pastor John, but you are Biblically wrong.

1. If we go straight to heaven when we die, what happens at the ressurrection? Do i get sucked back into my grave to be ressurrected?
2. Why would Jesus go straight to heaven after dying on the cross, come back to earth to exit the grave, then tell the women not to touch him as he has not ascended to the father yet? Obviously he was not in heaven before God ressurrected him.
3. Was Lazuras in heaven when he died or was he dead as Jesus indicated before ressurecting him.
4. If David sleeps in the grave with his fathers, how can he be in heaven with Jesus while Jesus is on earth?
5. Of the 100s ressurected with Jesus on Easter sunday, were they all sucked from heaven to live on earth again and die again?
6. Jesus ays he comes with his reward upon is second coming. If the dead go to heaven immediately, do they have to wait for their reward? The reward is ressurrection into eternal life or eternal death, not a material reward.
7. If i go to heaven when i die will i be looking down on everyone until Jesus goes and gets them at the ressurrection?
8. Why is Jesus preparing a place for us in his mansion of many rooms and coming to collect us if we are already in heaven with him?

The doctrine of straight to heaven when we die is a very false, catholic, one.

To be absent from the body and present with the Lord doesn't mean we go straight to heaven when we die. It may seem that way because we have no consciousness, no knowledge, no memory in the grave.

The Bible is quite clear; as beleivers, we are sleeping in the grave until Jesus returns with our reward at the second comming. Those that chose death will wait another 1000 years in the grave to have their reward.

AussieMAG - posted on May 12, 2019 9:34 am

Absent from the body, present with the Lord.

Luke Wagner - posted on May 15, 2019 1:44 pm

No, you are in the grave asleep until the Lord returns for his body or until the white throne judgment.
1 Corinthians 15:20-23 KJVS
[20] But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. [21] For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. [22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. [23] But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

The Bible Says - posted on May 18, 2019 2:34 am

When we die our consciousness stops, our "thoughts perish." We know nothing and are unaware of the passage of time:
"His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." (Psalm 146:4)

"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten." (Ecclesiastes 9:5)

Many times the Bible refers to death as a "sleep." Those who are dead are "asleep" in death, unaware of what is going on. Jesus referred to Lazarus being asleep – dead – before He resurrected him. In Daniel 12:2 we have this reference to the dead and their resurrection:

"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."

When the elect who "sleep in Jesus" are resurrected at Jesus' return (as Paul described in 1 Cor 15:50-54 and 1 Thess 4:13-17) their consciousness returns. Then, along with those "which are alive and remain," they rise to meet Christ. Nowhere does it say they meet Christ before then. And they meet Him "in the air," not in heaven:

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)

For those resurrected it will seem like no time had passed since their last conscious moment at death. Paul understood that after departing in death, the next thing he would know would be that he had been resurrected and was meeting Christ. That seemingly immediate meeting with Christ was what Paul was referring to when he wrote "For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better" (Philippians 1:23).

Upon death the mortal body "returns to his earth": the grave. At Jesus' return the "dead in Christ" are raised with immortal, spirit bodies, like Jesus' body after His resurrection. Paul explained this in 1 Corinthians 15:42-54. Then – not before then – we will rise "to meet the Lord in the air." For those in that resurrection it would seem like they were meeting Christ only a moment after their final moments of mortal consciousness:

"Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:6-8)

Paul was not a hypocrite (believing he'd go to meet Jesus immediately upon his death) but telling the Thessalonians they'd have to wait for a resurrection before they could meet Christ. No, Paul wrote that he hoped to attain the very same resurrection he told the Thessalonians about:

"That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead." (Philippians 3:10,11)

Viva Trump - posted on May 25, 2019 4:43 am

Cant wait to give JESUS a big hug

Emile Lunion - posted on May 25, 2019 1:13 pm

YOU MUST NOT CALL TO ASK ANY MAN OF THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT THE BIBLE . JUST LIKE THEY ARE ONLY THE AUTHORITY OF THE WORD OF GOD.— I CAN ASSURE YOU THEY ARE NOT. THEY HAVE THE HELLISH OF SATAN RIGHT IN THEIR MOUTH.– FOR SATAN HIMSELF USE THE SCRIPTURE AND EXPLAINED THE SCRIPTURE ACCORDING TO HIS EVIL WAY TO DECEIVE MANKIND.— YOU SHALL NOT CALL NO MAN TO ASKED THEM THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT THE BIBLE. BECAUSE THEIR EXPLANATIONS ARE OF THE WORKING OF SATAN.– YOU NEED TO READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELVES AND TRUST THE HOLY SPIRIT TO GUIDE YOU IN ALL TRUTH.

Raydeen Esau - posted on May 31, 2019 1:39 pm

1st.. If you not walking in the spirit your already dead.. We are backward people our clocks are backward we even write backward and don't even understand simple things Christ came to give us life.. You can't give life to people that's already alive.. Look at Adam he died spiritual and so are we. Even the new Testament says if you are carnal minded your dead.. When you drop this flesh you wake up and are alive even if your not saved you still become immortal. And all is one and one is All all souls go back to him who gave it. Peace…..

SnoopyDoo - posted on June 3, 2019 7:45 pm

How much time will you get to spend with Jesus? If 100 million people are saved, you will be stunned to learn that you will only get a 10 minute visit once every 100,000 years. Let that sink in.

PlayStation gamer - posted on June 11, 2019 2:37 pm

I'm going to kill jeezus and gawd and take over his kingdom and universe

JP Neri - posted on June 25, 2019 10:21 am

Actually we don't die, our spirit doesn't die, the body just stops to function when the spirit leaves it, now it's only between the two..eternal damnation or eternity with God..

Tessa Logan - posted on July 13, 2019 11:39 pm

No, Jesus must return first ,the dead are asleep and no nothing

Kevin DeVlaeminck - posted on July 30, 2019 12:52 am

another "pastor" that cant answer a simple question

Albert Castaneda - posted on July 31, 2019 4:21 pm

When we die we go to the grave until the day of ressurection the belief in an immortal soul that goes on living after we die is a pagan doctrine

Dona 4 Him - posted on July 31, 2019 11:13 pm

That was NOT that difficult to understand! That was so easy-peasey!!!!! ?

Ontoyou Always - posted on August 9, 2019 8:45 pm

I believe our souls return to God at death. The dead will not be "whole" again until he comes back to give us a new body.

WDJD - posted on August 16, 2019 1:00 am

Is it not true, when you die, time is not part of us anymore. So when you fall asleep-die, your next moment will be with Jesus even if 1000 years pass on earth. The first time we see Jesus is at the judgement.

Shelia Dozier - posted on August 17, 2019 10:41 am

Thank you brother God Bless you…Amen

stacy lynn - posted on August 18, 2019 12:11 am

I just wish we could get a straight answer here. Do you go to heaven right after you pass or not?.

Damian Martinez - posted on August 18, 2019 5:15 pm

Speaking of "desires" doesnt declare whatvhappens after death. I hate when So called pastors take a simple basic instruction and twist it Beyond confusion to try and make it fit their interpretation. Get with the program pastor the speaks of clear sound doctrine that we sleep, the dead know nothing, Jesus says. He'll make a place for us in Gods kingdom for when He comes back for us. It related to revelations and what he you John are not, Period.

Zetegu Anderson. THE ZODIAK SHOW - posted on August 22, 2019 10:46 am

Lololol

How dumb is this?

jesus died for you and you have to die to meet jesus.

This is madness. Literally.

Mambo Florida - posted on August 22, 2019 2:33 pm

I listened twice each time I understood less. No real answer was given.

youth of india - posted on August 25, 2019 7:34 am

fuck no guys..

Cowboy Fanatic - posted on August 26, 2019 2:03 am

Jesus said to the criminal next to Him on the cross … Luke 23:43 TODAY you’re with Me in paradise. Thoughts? Plz n thx

Ix_esteban_xi - posted on September 3, 2019 11:47 pm

So the dead in Christ will come back to life with this new body, then the people with Christ who were already alive will wait for this to happen so we can all go together to meet the lord in the sky makes sense?

David Moore - posted on September 5, 2019 6:34 pm

Well, that was confusing.

jamie Russell - posted on September 11, 2019 6:24 am

is it not true that in the Greek the translation into English has an artificial definite article? Can we really say "the" body must say "the"? Couldnt it just as easily be rendered "this body" as in more harmony with the context in the text where Paul previously speaks of his present, imperfect nature?

Something - posted on September 13, 2019 6:15 am

“Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

we are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:6, 8‬ ‭KJV

When we die the body stays in the ground until we get new bodies at the second coming when we die we either go to heaven or hell as temporary holding places

aerodave1 - posted on September 18, 2019 10:00 pm

I disagree with Pastor John. The Bible is very clear that we meet Jesus for the first time in the air at the second coming. It also says that no one has ascended to Heaven but He who came down from Heaven, Jesus Christ.

IIVII Jj - posted on October 2, 2019 12:55 pm

Those in Christ who pass away will be resurrected from the dead when Christ returns, they are not with Jesus or in heaven. When your dead, your dead..there is no spiritual activity or any senses of anything. Death is like a deep slumber. In Thesselonians…The dead in Christ will rise first and meet with him in the clouds, then the living will join. There is no rapture only Christ's second coming to punish the wicked, resurrect those saved to be joined by the living in the clouds. There will be a new heaven, new Earth, and new Jerusalem will descend from heaven. Those that are dead, are simply dead, having no sense of anything. When Lazarus was brought back to life, ha could not account for anything during the time he was dead. Same with Jesus of the 2 days he was dead. The manipulative/disinformation of the dead going to heaven and seeing Jesus is false and not biblical.Throughout history, today, and till the end, the churches have manipulated the scriptures to it's people as to generate revenue and acquire wealth for the few who lead it.Today, churches and pastors of 501(c)(3) non-profit religious businesses with their ulterior motives and greed to generate as much $$ possible manipulate scriptures to entice people to be saved, join their church, become a regular $$ donor, and falsely ensuring them along the way of, give us generously of your $$ to be blessed abundantly, and when you die you will go to heaven and see Jesus!

ncbible15 - posted on October 7, 2019 8:39 pm

The hope of the believer is body, soul, spirit all united with the Lord – Rom. 8:23-24


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