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  7. In fact, there is not such thing called “black English” because its origin goes back to Ireland and Scotland. The Irish and Scottish immigrants, who initially didn’t speak English fluently, settled in southern states. Thus, creating this ghetto language and culture which southern blacks inherited as result.

  8. Ebonics is slave talk. Why perpetuate that? Also, English is strictly a white language, from the UK. Period. Every other black person speaks their country's language beautifully, but not blacks in the US. Vast majority speak like they are on the plantation. I would be mortified to keep talking like that….

  11. I don't think that Noam Chomsky believed his own words. He was using his position and the trust people have in his linguistic skills to push a false narrative, in order to further his personal political views.

  12. There is not such thing as proper English and improper English. There in business language and professional language. Everything else is just communication and people are free to communicate however they Choose. Creole type languages are the indigenous language of black races which directly coincides with what is called black English is is the historical norm. To revert back to it does not mean a lack of intelligence it means you are tuned to your genetic history.

  16. If black people “had all the power” or were the ones to colonize America, then they would be speaking Swahili. Not a sub par form of English. Power isn’t the issue. There are languages that exist and there are rules for speaking them. If you are going to speak a language, you should speak it with its proper grammatical rules.

    That is not racism or a cultural issue.

  17. 00:20f
    "Black English is considered not quite proper English. On the other hand, if blacks happened to have all the power and owned all the companies, …, it would be the other way around."
    No, Mr. Chomsky, it weren't that way because "black" English I bound to a subculture which prevents its bearers from becoming entrepreneurs in the first place.
    "Black" entrepreneurs would speak standard English.

  19. Even more so as the defenders of "black" English gatekeep their language, denouncing any white person who dares to use it or cultural appropriation.
    By doing so and accusing standard English speaking "black" people of "acting white", they undermine the ability of "white" and "black" people to even talk to one another.

  20. I never cared enough to give it much thought until I got old, after black slang evolved through the mainstream and our reliance on technology to write to where it now includes words and sounds and phrases I do not understand. This can be problematic when trying to communicate. Especially if you're a television news anchor unaware that apparently not everyone is allowed to say "nizzle."

  23. Languages form when sufficient communicative experience facilitates unique words. In other words, when your dialect has enough *unique concepts*, *expressed using community-specific analogies*, you may split off. For now, what they're referring to as "Black English" is more or less a pidgin English. It doesn't have enough words to stand on its own. Once a sufficient number of black individuals have enough unique expressions, they can split off.

    However, this requires that stories be passed down. It requires a solid grasp of the world, and of other peoples. It requires that there be black writers, poets, scientists, and other significant figures.

    I'd love to see a dialect split off American English. As an amateur linguist, it would be an exciting development. But I'm anxious that "black English" will remain a pidgin language for now.

  25. Regardless of whether black colloquial language should be used in education, I have never understood why some black people would want to speak in the manner of the slave masters of their antecedents.

  28. Thomas Sowell the lapdog cultivated by Jewish capitalists, is not black American. And you're still motivated at 92 years old, to spend your last days propagating made up economic theories for predatory billionaire bankers.

  34. I was once told by my British lit teacher in school that your vocabulary can determine the bounds of your understanding. Meaning that the more rich your understanding of language and it's use the easier it is to grasp new concepts and ideas. Also the greater ease with which you can get across your own ideas and concepts to others. A broken version of any language does not help the person using it, in fact it can limit them in many ways which means promoting it is no different than holding that person back from being the most they can be.

  42. If an African American is late for work you give him hell.
    If it doesn't stop you fire him.
    If he gets hungry he'll get the idea being on time is important.
    If you give him food stamps he'll never learn his lesson.
    It's really just that easy.