Does the Multiverse Theory Make God Unnecessary?
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Can Multiverse Theories Explain the Appearance of Fine Tuning in the Universe?
Can the multiverse theory explain the appearance of fine-tuning in the universe? Do multiverse theories render God unnecessary and obsolete? Detective Jimmy Wallace (J. Warner’s son) tackles these questions as part of his Incarnate Investigation Video Series.
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There are a couple of problems with the multiverse theories. My atheistic physics teacher taught me that if the Big Bang is the beginning of the universe, then God exists. A lot of physicists share this opinion. That is why atheistic physicist came up with the multiverse theory. These are the problems with the multiverse theories. Are 8 theories at the moment. & are not correct based on our observations in this universe. 1 theory cannot be proven be. But of course, you can modify these theories and make them fit our observations. But if a multiverse exists then you have not solved the problem because something exists, you just have made the problem bigger as atheistic physicist like Neil Degrasse Tyson have admitted by now., because the multiverse is also not necessary to exist.
They can not cope with the idea of one creator now they are multiplying the problem.
I always found the Multiverse as a way to move the goal post of the question of fine tuning, but not essentially getting rid of it. The problem still remains for the atheist.
Very good; you've got the right idea. For those who pay attention to detail, the question of God’s existence has been answered conclusively by Dr. Stephen Meyer in his book, Return of the God Hypothesis. In Chapter 16, he points out that an inflationary-string multiverse (the only kind that skeptics can posit to seemingly account for the fine-tuning of our universe) – this multiverse itself must be extremely fine-tuned (in its universe-generating mechanism) in order to exist and to produce multiple universes, which are necessary in order to seemingly account for OUR universe’s fine-tuning as if it arose by random chance. However, this won’t work because the multiverse itself requires extreme fine-tuning to begin its production of universes! Therefore, whether it’s to account for the fine-tuning of our universe (Meyer, Chapters 7, 8, & 13) OR to account for the fine-tuning of a feasible multiverse (that could hypothetically account for the fine-tuning of our universe), an intelligent Fine-Tuner or Designer of at least one universe, and possibly of a multiverse, must exist! (Meyer, Chapter 16) In essence, a Creator God must exist; there are no realistic alternatives, as long as we precisely follow the details of this evidence. The only way to avoid this conclusion is to NOT follow the evidence where it leads, in terms of its details. This is one of several reasons why I, a former atheist, am now a believer in the Christian God, which makes the most sense considering all forms of evidence.
Actually infinite all possibility universes by definition mandates at least one omnipotent creator exists in one of them and Hell exits in many due to the non functionality of the,vast majority. Of pointless universes. Infinity is the only,way this logical universe could have quantifiably formed without intelligent manipulation.
So one can still establish that there is a need for GOD or there is a GOD, even if multiverse existed, correct?
But will it still be compatible with the biblical worldview? Where would Jesus' and His mission (like in our world) fit in all this? Is it only applicable in "this" universe? or is there somehow a Jesus variant of sort in those other universes? (But "He is the same yesterday, today and forever") Or do other universes could still be a probability but then not have any life or human life in them, to be significantly differentiated from ours or us? Sorry got a lot of questions. I'm not sure I fully understand what I'm trying to ask. Nevertheless, I am confused if this theory is compatible with what the bible says, especially Jesus, since the bible says even before all things were created, He already is. "All things was made through Him and for Him."
If this doesn't conflict or affect Christian worldview in anyway, how or why? Bear with me, if I'm not making any sense.
you know why you can’t see Jesus or the Father?
– 1 god, multiple-universes.
I'm interested in exploring the occult origins/tie ins to the current multiverse theories; undoubtedly there are earlier philosophies that influenced these current ideas…
As is usually the case, those world religions or pagan mythologies that concentrate on cycles, recurrences, fractals, and impersonal forces are always the evil AF Godless ones, and are the the most popular modern "alternative faiths."
Hi Jimmy. – I'm sympathetic to what you're trying to do here but I think you may be committing an equivocation fallacy. There are different kinds of infinities. When advocates of the multiverse talk about an infinite number of universes, they are talking about one understanding of the use of the word "infinite" whereas when you use it, you are using it with a different understanding. For example, there is one kind of understanding of infinite were it essentially means, going forward or backward without end. But there is at least one other understanding of the use of the word infinite. If you remember geometry, it is axiomatic that there are an infinite number of points between two points on a line. Yet simply because there are an infinite number of points in a line segment, that doesn't mean that we can't draw a line segment. I don't know if I'm being clear here or not and I'm no expert. But I think you've got an "apples vs. oranges" problem in your use of the word "infinite."
Have you read the Bible?
My thoughts on the multiverse theory are that it was invented by atheists as a way to explain everything without having to cite God as the cause. Problem is, in a simplified way, if there are multiple universes in which anything could happen in them then by it's own logic it stands to reason one of them could have a Creator/God. To be God He would have to be omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent, but if He had those qualities He'd be the God of all the universes, not just one.
Multiverse is complete nonsense. End of story.
The first time I heard Frank Turek talk about why the universe couldn't be infinite because we would never end up here and now was very difficult for me to grasp. I kept thinking, "why couldnt we end up here and now"? Your race explanation has helped me to understand better why. Thanks for the explanation.
Since evolutionists teach that everything came from nothing and was ordered by nothing… the theory of multiverse just exponentially begs the question….Who created and ordered those universes theorized? Furthermore, why would a loving God send his only begotten son, Jesus, to endure the indignity and pain of the cross in countless universes….if disobedience is found throughout those universes. This is all about kicking the can further down the road. When an evolutionist can give me an alternative as to how everything came from and was order by nothing then we can further discuss their rational. By the way, nothing means nothing…no quantum forces etc…..
My belief is this. The multiverse theory can also be used to verify the principles of free will and an all knowing God. We were given free will to make our own choices. And God knows the effects of each choice we make. Example- If we have 4 choices, God knows the effects of all 4 choices and where they lead and every thing that branches from each.
What evidence is there of a Multiverse? Just wondering…