Does Science Argue for or against God?
Why are we here? Literally. The latest science says we shouldn’t be. It says that the chance life exists at all is less than zero. So, is science the greatest threat to the idea of Intelligent Design or is science its greatest advocate? Best-selling author and lecturer, Eric Metaxas, poses this intriguing question and comes up with a very unexpected and challenging answer.
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In 1966 Time magazine ran a cover story asking: “Is God Dead?” The cover reflected the fact that many people had accepted the cultural narrative that God is obsolete — that, as science progresses there is less need for a “God” to explain the universe. It turns out, though, that the rumors of God’s death were premature. In fact, perhaps the best arguments for his existence come from — of all places — science itself.
Here’s the story: The same year Time featured its now-famous headline, the astronomer Carl Sagan announced that there were two necessary criteria for a planet to support life: The right kind of star, and a planet the right distance from that star. Given the roughly octillion planets in the universe — that’s 1 followed by 24 zeros — there should have been about septillion planets — that’s 1 followed by 21 zeros — capable of supporting life.
With such spectacular odds, scientists were optimistic that the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, known by its initials, SETI, an ambitious project launched in the 1960’s, was sure to turn up something soon. With a vast radio telescopic network, scientists listened for signals that resembled coded intelligence. But as the years passed, the silence from the universe was deafening. As of 2014, researchers have discovered precisely bubkis, nada, zilch, which is to say zero followed by an infinite number of zeros.
What happened? As our knowledge of the universe increased, it became clear that there were, in fact, far more factors necessary for life — let alone intelligent life — than Sagan supposed. His two parameters grew to 10, then 20, and then 50, which meant that the number of potentially life-supporting planets decreased accordingly. The number dropped to a few thousand planets and kept on plummeting.
Even SETI proponents acknowledged the problem. Peter Schenkel wrote in a 2006 piece for Skeptical Inquirer, a magazine that strongly affirms atheism: “In light of new findings and insights . . . . We should quietly admit that the early estimates . . . may no longer be tenable.”
Today there are more than 200 known parameters necessary for a planet to support life–every single one of which must be perfectly met, or the whole thing falls apart. For example, without a massive, gravity-rich planet like Jupiter nearby to draw away asteroids, Earth would be more like an interstellar dartboard than the verdant orb that it is.
Simply put, the odds against life in the universe are astonishing.
Yet here we are, not only existing, but talking about existing. What can account for it? Can every one of those many parameters have been perfectly met by accident? At what point is it fair to admit that it is science itself that suggests that we cannot be the result of random forces? Doesn’t assuming that an intelligence created these perfect conditions in fact require far less faith than believing that a life-sustaining Earth just happened to beat the inconceivable odds?
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In the past 24 hours I've been trying to formulate in simply way what Eric just said, not knowing I would come across this video just now. There is a God! He invented, designed and created everything. And this God loves us, cares for us, DIED on the cross bearing our sins.
The assumption that life doesnt exist because we did not get any radio signals from them is like saying the aztecs didnt exist because they didn't write a physics textbook in modern english.
It's amazing how you can bear so much false witness in a single video.
1. The universe is infinite
2. There are infinite planets that support life
3. Life must occur, with God or not
4. People are alive in this universe, and talk about how unlikely it is that they are alive in this universe
1. The universe is not infinite, and life does not occur
2. No one is alive in this universe
1. The universe is not infinite, but life does occur by random chance
2. People are alive in this universe, and talk about how unlikely it is that they are alive in this universe
there are so many legit arguments for theism but prageru always chooses the least logical ones
There is a fairly rational argument for a supervisory God who oversees the universe.
Remarkably, Einstein himself was aware of and even spoke of the necessity of a supervisory intelligence in the universe (though he never acknowledged the existence of a personal God, as in the Judeo-Christian Bible).
The sum-total of matter and energy in the universe could not possibly have existed eternally – for some infinite length of time. Infinity is only theoretical and constitutes a purely mathematical concept.
The time concept itself can be rationalized only in the presence of matter and energy. Time is the duration of an event, and the event of interest is the continuing expansion of the universe. There had to have been a finite beginning to the very existence of the sum-total of matter and energy, prior to which it did not exist. Furthermore, it could not have materialized, either gradually or abruptly, out of a total void. There thus had to have been a first cause of some sort.
The second law of thermodynamics would hardy allow the coalescence of matter into stable planetary systems such as exist, especially like that of the earth and moon, both of which possess certain particular features that favor a life-supporting environment that can only be explained as a consequence of willful purpose and intention. In addition, the presence of a mega-planet Jupiter is crucial to the protection of the Earth from asteroids, which are gravitationally prevented from being drawn into a collision with Earth by the Earth’s own gravity.
The formation of earth’s habitation was not an accidental consequence of mere resident forces, but resulted from the supervisory guidance of an intellect vastly superior to that of humans.
“Earth is well equipped as a planet and ideally placed in Earth is well equipped as a planet and ideally placed in our solar system and galaxy to support life as we know it. The product of some 4.6 billion years of cosmic construction, our planet is flush with life thanks to a fortuitous set of conditions. construction, our planet is flush with life thanks to a fortuitous set of conditions.”
Notice, for instance, that . . .
OUR LOCATION IS FAR FROM
MANY HAZARDS
The solar system is comfortably nestled in a safe harbour
between major spiral arms, and its nearly circular orbit helps
it avoid the galaxy’s perilous inner regions. There are
relatively few stars near the sun, reducing risks to Earth
from gravitational tugs, gamma-ray bursts, or collapsing
stars called supernovae.
OUR SUN IS A STABLE AND LONG-
LASTING STAR
Stars more massive than the sun burn hotter and usually
don’t live long enough for planets to develop life. Less
massive, younger stars are often unstable and are prone to
blasting their planets with bursts of radiation.
WE’RE AT JUST THE RIGHT
DISTANCE FROM THE SUN
Earth orbits in the so-called Goldilocks zone, where the planet
receives enough energy to allow water to exist as a liquid
on its surface. Too far, and the vital compound stays locked
up as ice. Too close, and the water would rapidly
evaporate into the atmosphere.
EARTH HAS THE RIGHT COMPOSITION TO
HOST A DYNAMIC CORE
The interstellar cloud of gas and dust that gave rise to
an Earth with enough radioactive elements to power a
churning core for billions of years. Their presence creates a magnetic
field that protects the planet from
such hazards as solar flares.
EARTH HAS A LARGE-ENOUGH MOON TO
STABILIZE ITS AXIAL WOBBLE
Earth is tilted with respect to the sun, and teeters as it spins.
This tiny wobble can shift the climate from hot to icy every
41,000 years—and might vary more without the
stabilizing tractive force of the moon.
EARTH HAS AN OZONE LAYER THAT ATTENUATES
THE HARMFUL EFFECT OF UV RAYS EMANATING FROM THE SUN
Ancient plantlike organisms in the oceans added oxygen to the
atmosphere and created a high-altitude layer of ozone that
shielded early land species from lethal radiation.
SOURCES FOR EARTH INFORMATION: PETER D. WARD, UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON; KATE MAHER, STANFORD UNIVERSITY; KARINA A. YAGER, NASA GODDARD SPACE FLIGHT CENTER; JASON BARNES, UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO, GUILLERMO GONZALEZ, BALL STATE UNIVERSITY; MICHAEL GOWANLOCK, NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY; ICARUS; ASTROBIOLOGY; NASA/JPL; INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF ASTROBIOLOGY
Even if there was a creator, how does that support religion?
Are sceptics ever sceptical of their scepticism? A terrific tutorial. I would also recommend his marvellous book on miracles.
All Religions Are False!
Soul does not exist! afterlife does not exist! jesus does not exist! satan does not exist! God does not exist!
hope nonsense does exist!.
everything has a cause! Can you make yourself? no! how can god make his own? can't!
evidence! god doesn't exist!
energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, that is to say, it has always existed! and will always exist!
universe has always existed and will always exist!
evidence! god didn't create universe!
can you prove or explain that god exists! no!
then god doesn't exist!
everything has a cause! but god has no cause? what nonsense!
god making his own out of nothing! and god who makes everything out of nothing! without evidence! or explaining anything! is logic? no!
is madness!
Soul and afterlife!
People talk about energy! and a soul! that goes to afterlife! while that energy which is nothing more than body heat!
What cannot be destroyed that's right! spreading everywhere! and perishes in everything! so what!
Not going anywhere specific! is not consciousness either!
There is no evidence for soul! and there is no evidence for afterlife!
You have to prove something like that first before you can say that!
Evolution and origin of life!
You really think god made a man in sand blew on it and there's adam grab a rib from adam and there you have eva!
That's how it went? because that's nonsense
You never looked up origin of life!
You never looked up evolution!
Even if they don't know everything yet! they try to explain! and prove things! which isn't easy! is better than nothing!
And claim things without evidence or explanation! that's the easiest thing to do, but that doesn't make it true!
Origin of life talk about blocks of life! who by circumstances! originated!
Step by step! small changes over time!
And small mutation over time!
And that counts for evolution too! they don't claim that something came out of nothing!
The bible does that without explanation! without evidence!
Debate real and truth!
There is no good or bad is illusion!
There are no winners! there are no losers!
everything that is made! is fake!
made truth is not truth!
Is no more than I say everything people think! or made!
is fake and cannot be real or truth!
Otherwise we wouldn't have had to make it! and think about it!
that also means that god does not exist!
Because they have to made it! thought about it!
So that's fake! and can't be real or truth!
Burden Of Proof is for everyone!
Claim! you believe in god! why? try to explain! try to prove!
They don't know! they just believe in god!
Claim! that you don't believe in the claim! why? try to explain! try to prove!
They don't know! they just dont believe the claim!
Claim! you don't believe in god! why? try to explain! try to prove!
They don't know! they just don't believe in god!
Claim! you know god doesn't exist! why? try to explain! try to prove!
They know more! and that's why they don't believe in god anymore!
Every claim must be explained! they all think they don't have to explain it!
Doesn't mean they don't have to explain it!
God!
you need evidence first! that god exists! and has always existed!
you need evidence first! that god has created something! especially what cannot be created! energy! matter!
you need evidence first! how god made his own out of nothing! and made everything out of nothing!
you need evidence first! what does it matter to anyone in this world!
you still have a very long way to go! for proving something!
let alone explain something!
before you can say anything about it!
This video makes me feel amazing…… I'm the only person who TRULY understands what Scientific Thinking is….. 🙂🙂🙂 while all those "Neanderthals" believe in their God, Santa, Easter Bunny and other fairy tales…. 🙂🙂🙂 even if we are living in a virtual reality – you can still read Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan…… it's about Scientific Worldview VS ancient superstition…… ✌
I am sorry but we can't use the argument that us being here is incredibly unlikely because we are here.
The simple fact is that we just can't have a scientific argument for or against God
God made this little planet just for us.
greatly done . Thank u all very much . in need of little more on emerging humanism .. visuals and illustrations really add up to the fine understanding . THANK U ALL
Actually at what point can religión admit that we are the result of random forces? 🤷♂️
The odds are overwhelmingly against winning the lottery too, but it happens.
this is plagarized. i literally read this on another website
God is real!
Now define God! God is freedom, religion is slavery….
Science is an intelligence test that most children fail. Leave the gods out of it. They have nothing to do with your inability to learn facts about nature. 🙂
This is so important to me the best data I've encountered a long time
Human life
Human
This video is like taking a spoonfull of the ocean and saying that whales don't exist.
True Science
True Science, Is The Knowledge And Understanding Of The Great Creator And The Great Creator's Creation.
Truth Is Existence
Truth is All That Truly Exists.
Other Than Truth there is Just The understood Concept of An Absence.
Lies with intent to deceive or not is fantasy. Lies remain in the nonexistent realm.
Creation is only the rearrangement of Matter. As Existence and Matter does not evolve from nothing.
The Great Designer and Creator, The Spirit Energy Source Matter, Knowledge, Energy, Time and Space Has Always Existed.
All Without Beginning or end.
Beginning and End only reveals an absence.
The Great Creator is far more Massive and complex than the God worshipers realize and understand.
The Great Creator is not a being somewhere in space.
The Great Creator is a huge mass of spirits in perfect unity. And with the same care for each another.
The Universe was the first Intelligent design That we are aware of. The Universe was specially designed for life on this Planet Earth. it is powered and controlled by the 'The Spirit Energy Source.'
Words to the honest and wise: honesty and understanding is the only true belief. Without honesty and understanding we do not know what to believe.
To accept other’s opinion of the truth without proving it to yourself; it is being deceived it is not believing.
We must understand to believe.
The proof of 'Intelligent Design' Is 'Existence'. It begins with the complex 'Intelligent Design' of 'The Universe'. 'The Universe'. was Designed to make Life on Earth possible.
Nothing Can Survive Singular
It is only in a huge Complex Mass can anything survive and succeed.
Love and Care for All Other as You Would Like to be Loved and Cared for. It is the basic of Justice. It is the only success for humanity.
Truth is not freedom. Truth has absolute boundaries'. Justice comes only by the truth.
Free has absolutely no boundaries', free is chaos.
Gods Are Imaginary Personages Of Worship
Gods are not creators. There are Hundreds of Gods that the human has worshipped.
Truth will solve all our problems before we create them; and ignore or reject the truth; problems will multiply all by themselves; those problems will need no help.
Have a great and a meaningful life if it is at all possible.
Just whispers, of the Spirit of Reality.
It is the height of arrogance to think that one knows enough about the unknown to know that is unknowable ~ Gk Chesterton
Science revealing God not burying God
His infinite intelligence
Eg.evolution
"Can every one of those many parameters have been perfectly met by accident" Yes, it took Billions of years for the planet and life forms on it to evolve, and to dismiss that and claim that our lack of current knowledge is an indication that your religious beliefs are inherently true is totally lacking objectivity, something that's paramount when discussing science. Feel free to believe as you so choose, but this supposed justification for your beliefs is outrageously weak and monumentally biased.
Eric Metaxas is wrong in his arguments and his conclusions. He does very little to address the opposition's arguments. He is essentially, pandering to the crowd just to sell books.
Irreducible complexity