One Less God?
Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason answers the question, “How do you respond to an atheist who says ‘I just believe in one less god than you do.’?”
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One FEWER God. God!
I think the "one less god" routine is typically a response to a declaration of unjustified faith, which some Christians preach. For someone like you, Greg, it doesn't really make sense to bring up. You're willing to justify your beliefs & admit that the reason you don't accept other gods is because you don't have adequate reason to. Once you've made it here you've accepted the only point the atheist is trying to make. Namely that justification is the only good reason to believe in a god.
Unfortunately, people who argue against Koukl have typical rhetorical assertions based on no foundation. "Your arguments are ridiculous" is nowhere near adequate in order to refute. I am so bewildered at the idiocy of the ability to bring about a coherent argument.
Therefore, you are an atheist with respect to all gods but one.
"We dismiss a bunch of Gods because they are not believable, we accept one because he is" You can't see that all believers think that exact thought about their particular God/Gods? Because that's the crux of the argument…
@STRvideos You're fighting a losing battle my friend. Your faith is the superstition of 1st century illiterates. As people become more educated, and learn how to think critically, they're realizing how ridiculous your arguments are.
Where do you stand on the Old Testament? Do you believe it to be the word of your god? Or do you believe that the New Testament pretty much wiped out the Old Testament? If not, you do understand that there's many things in the Old Testament that were not truthful or was a lie? Do you have plenty of excuses for the Old Testament? Read KJV Genesis 2:17 and 3:3 and tell me that it wasn't a lie.
@sashavboyd fight is not my intent. I stated that – one less God argument is demonstration of atheist hipocrisy not the teist inconsitancy. The test is of measuring every worldview with the same measure – I find Christianity superior by results of the test not by my personal feelings.
@sashavboyd then why should it be supposed that christianity fails the test. actually argument of one less god is inacurate as teists are reformists(correcting flaws not denying) of other deities so it is not believing in one less God it is about what do you believe about God. So i see inconsitancy on atheist part with this argument.
@cosmos11 I'm not sure why we should listen to what scientists have to say regarding the metaphysical.
-the reason I reject all of these other gods… is because I have no good reason to believe any of those gods exist but I do have good reason to believe the God of the Bible exists.-
Please tell me your ‘good reason’for the God of the Bible’s existence and how does that evidence prove superior to a similar type of evidence for the existence of any other God or gods. For instance, Holy Book 1 is just as good evidence as Holy Book 2. So, ‘good reason’ is not that I accept 1 and reject 2.
@DarkEmergence The most atheists don't apply the same standart to their own de jure beliefs as they do to other beliefs.
@indignant99 "….Your predecessors have failed to give evidence for 2000 years (jesus)…" just a question – why does it took more than 1700 years for someone to come up with the idea that Jesus never existed?
"…. and 5000 years (god of the jews)." where did you get that number?
@sashavboyd "….Most Christians (well, everyone including non-Christians really) don't apply the same standard to their own de jure beliefs as they do to other beliefs…." the same goes for atheists. So how does one less god apply to inconsistancy?
The thing is there is no more evidence to support your god then any other.
Now if you think you have evidence and good reason to believe, then fine show me. I am willing to listen, but so far all the evidence any religious person have given me have not been convincing in the slightest. It all boils down to logical fallacies, hearsay, personal experience or in some cases even outright lies.
@Atheistfor35yrs How thoroughly have you examined the claims of Christ and the Bible?
There's no good reason your god is any more real then all the other gods out there. Your evidence is no better than their evidence YET……you deem yours is correct. It's rather funny to get the responses from varies religions, they all say the same thing….their god is true and all others are false. I bet if you were born in the Mideast your god would be a different god than the one you have now and you'd be defending Allah instead. Think about it…it's all about your up-bringing.
@1tmoch The idea that a stance of non-belief against a god, even if its by believers in a different god, is referred to as atheism harkens back to the early Christianities, where they were 'atheoi' because they didnt believe in the pantheon. Novel concept its not.
I think the phrase is often misused though. In fact, most theists don't disbelieve in other gods for the same reason as me, but because theyve committed to a dogma that shuns dissent and demonizes (literally!) opposing claims.
1:49 "the god of the Jews" Not quite. The Jews seem to disagree on the Jesus thing. And if we lax the standards to allow Christians to claim ' the god of the Jews', we must also allow the Muslims and the Mormons, who have similar claims, not to mention the Israelites.
Is this pertinent? I think so. Religions recycle arguments & Ive heard the same claims used to defend different gods. They are unconvincing to both of us for most gods. I also find them unconvincing for yours.
haha, exactly that's the same thing i thought. i paused the video and gave myself a chance to answer the question. i said "umm, ok! you're just stating your beliefs." they're making a positive assertion ( i believe in) about a negative position (one less (0) god). it's supposed to sound short and wise but really falls apart when subjected to even casual scrutiny.